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Old 30th Jun 2012, 05:53
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Pilot Failed to Locate Runway Before Crash..

A commercial airline pilot failed to locate the runway before landing and abandoned the plane after it crashed in northeastern China two years ago, the government said Friday and called for the chief pilot to be prosecuted.

The 2010 crash of a Henan Airlines plane killed 44 people and injured 52 and was China’s first major commercial air disaster in nearly six years.

The State Administration of Work Safety also suggested in its investigation report that the airline should be fined 5 million yuan ($795,000) for lax safety management.

The agency’s investigation said chief pilot Qi Quanjun violated aviation rules during the descent, did not locate the runway before landing and abandoned the crashed aircraft.

The Embraer E-190 jet hit the ground 690 meters (2,260 feet) short of the runway at the Lindu airport in Heilongjiang province’s Yichun city, then burst into flames. Media reports at the time said fog shrouded the runway during the landing.

The Civil Aviation Administration of China has said that a 2008-2009 investigation had found that 200 pilots falsified their flying histories, with more than half of them working for Henan Airlines’ parent company. It said airlines desperate for staff had been hiring pilots whose resumes had been faked. The most recent report didn’t say if Qi was among those who doctored his resume.

The report said Qi should have his pilot’s license revoked, be removed from his post and expelled from the Communist Party, and should also face criminal charges though it didn’t specify what they would be.

State media said in 2010 that Qi was a former People’s Liberation Army pilot and had been unable to speak after the crash due to severe injuries to his face.

Full-tilt expansion of Chinese air traffic in the 1990s led to a series of crashes that gave China the reputation of being unsafe. The poor record prompted the government to improve safety drastically, from airlines to new air traffic management systems at airports.

Prior to the Yichun disaster, the last major passenger jet crash in China was in November 2004, when a China Eastern airplane plunged into a lake in northern China, killing all 53 on board and two on the ground.

Associated Press...June 30, 2012
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That will be alright then. We'll prosecute, fine and imprison the wrong-doers and this sort of event will never, ever happen again. Appropriate action taken. Case closed.

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That will be alright then. We'll prosecute, fine and imprison the wrong-doers and this sort of event will never, ever happen again. Appropriate action taken. Case closed.

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Some countries apply the death penalty as punishment and that's not why it n 'there are more crimes
Nevertheless a crime must be punished one way or another
This is what is called "pay the debt to society" ...
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Accidental Hero? Well.. No.

the wrong-doers
He killed more than 40 people, you can call him that.

He has to face his responsabilities, not because he lives in China, but just because he has to.


Missing the runway, then running away instead of helping the passengers?

The opposite as Dustin Hoffman



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Vada a bordo!

Was the captain's name Schettino?
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"unable to speak after the crash due to severe injuries to his face" and they complain he abandoned the aircraft. Would he have been able to help had he stayed?

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over rated

cwaters: that's a good point.

However he had enough strength to run away.
And remaining silent in front of the judge for medical reasons is an old trick, not saying this is the case here, but one has the right to wonder. He cannot even write?

And this accident happened years ago, that's not really "news".
I am quite sure we can dig up some old thread related to it.
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It was a clear case of getthereitis and busted minimums.
They flew it into the ground short of the runway and off to one side, visibility was almost nil.
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This is not a Daily Mail debate...

Some countries apply the death penalty as punishment and that's not why it n 'there are more crimes
Complete and utter sh1te! I'll give you that the executed never commit another crime, but it capital punishment doesn't appear to reduce the number of hapless waiting in prison to be executed. But returning to where we came from...

Who should a government be responsible to? Itself or it's nationals? If we assume the latter, then you have to ask, how are they improving the system by prosecution? Does your average pilot get up in the morning and say "I'm going to crash a plane today"? No. Obviously not. But I'll tell you that many find that they are at the wrong end of a rubbish system. A system which defends its poor infra-structure, poor training based on fear, corrupt licensing, lack of oversight, driven by commercial pressure which bites anybody who either falls in the traps it sets or points out its shortcomings.

So unless the "system" is fixed, it will happen again and again and...

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Why are we speaking about capital punishment here?

He killed more than 40 people, but his life is not in danger, please let's avoid to twist everything around.
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However he had enough strength to run away.
Ask a rescue helper, such as firemen and ambulance personnel, what shock and adrenaline can do to you.

Not hoping that you`ll ever face the same situation, but should you have to I wish you all the best to react in a way that will allow you case to be discussed on pprune without the usual pompous git coming along and accusing you of...running away and the like.

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Most rules were written after a screw up that probable cost lives , if pilots today would think of it like that ie there was someone just like me in this exact situation many years ago who had similar exsperience and ability and he continued on and died. How many people are going to die in fog?
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Ask a rescue helper, such as firemen and ambulance personnel, what shock and adrenaline can do to you.
Dude, spot on!

To those who have no experience with this - you'd be amazed. And, like the Dude, I don't wish it on anyone.....
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