This is going to be fun !
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This is going to be fun !
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Huh! I remember huddling with my mom under the stairs as the incendiary bombs hit our roof. I hope that they will attain a higher standard of security than that.
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I can see it now. A miss-heard clearance, a read-back garbled by others transmitting on a heavily congested frequency, a fluffed frequency change and... Boom! Bit's of aircraft etc. are now strewn across tracts of London. It will have to be that or the Titanium curtain protecting "us" will be worthless. It takes approx. nine minutes from LHR and only three once airborne from LCY to get to that place I probably can't mention because of The London Olympic Games and Paralympic Games Act 2006. That means a decision will have to be made by somebody within seconds to either shoot or hope that it's just an innocent mistake. Have you ever heard of a politician (with the exception of the warmonger Blair) making any decision that quickly? So the decision will have to be made by the military.
I'm so glad I'll be paying for an event I can't (afford) go to, I can't mention because of a temporary Act designed to protect greedy sponsors, one which will potentially bugger our lives for a few months but one I'll be paying for... I'm so glad I live in a free country.
I'm so glad I'll be paying for an event I can't (afford) go to, I can't mention because of a temporary Act designed to protect greedy sponsors, one which will potentially bugger our lives for a few months but one I'll be paying for... I'm so glad I live in a free country.
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It is utter and will have no effect whatsoever on any determined act of terrorism. It is the politicians deciding they have to be seen to be doing something. For those of us who use an aircraft for business where we do not know from one day to the next where we may need to go to earn our crust then the cost is enormous and it is not just for the period of the olympics remember.
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What concerns me is the attitude that it wont matter if we kill hundreds of people on the ground when we shoot down a rogue 747 or 380 as long as their precious games are safe.
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It is utter and will have no effect whatsoever on any determined act of terrorism.
If you think it's bad for you professionals, at least you are used to flight plans, clearances and required navigation performance. Spare a thought for we leisure flyers who aren't. Now, credit where it's due, the RAF, CAA and NATS have bent over backwards to calm some of the wilder restrictions which were originally propose by non-aviation people and to put in place a temporary infrastructure to help us fly in the restricted area. However, our freedom to fly will be severely curtailed and one imagines some businesses will be destroyed so that the politicians and multi-national corporations can have their sports day.
One other thing. We, being sensible people(!), are thinking about this in terms of what are credible lethal threats. Our lords and masters think rather more broadly and don't want their lives interrupted by contrary opinions either. "They" do occasionally let slip in public that "they" consider peaceful protest just as much a problem as lethal terrorism. Some senior police officer said so in so many words on TV around the time of the royal wedding and I have heard the same in an early statement about the Olympic airspace. Sadly, I cannot find references but in both cases the wording was clear, they are just as concerned about stopping peaceful protest as they are about lethal terrorism.
One other thing. We, being sensible people(!), are thinking about this in terms of what are credible lethal threats. Our lords and masters think rather more broadly and don't want their lives interrupted by contrary opinions either. "They" do occasionally let slip in public that "they" consider peaceful protest just as much a problem as lethal terrorism. Some senior police officer said so in so many words on TV around the time of the royal wedding and I have heard the same in an early statement about the Olympic airspace. Sadly, I cannot find references but in both cases the wording was clear, they are just as concerned about stopping peaceful protest as they are about lethal terrorism.
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with pre-approved planes being told which routes to take well in advance.
RAF running the air traffic control systems across London
It's going to be a fun filled few months at Lagos north!
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It is utter and will have no effect whatsoever on any determined act of terrorism. It is the politicians deciding they have to be seen to be doing something. For those of us who use an aircraft for business where we do not know from one day to the next where we may need to go to earn our crust then the cost is enormous and it is not just for the period of the olympics remember.
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The terrorists have won already, their sitting back laughing their c**ks off, they have instilled fear. Our Government is playing in to their hands, no attack, they just watch and enjoy the panic procedures HMG are implementing. The action of HMG over the Olympics gives them kudos.
I would consider (hypothetical attack) around the Eurovision song contest where security might not be up to Western standards.
I would consider (hypothetical attack) around the Eurovision song contest where security might not be up to Western standards.
The terrorists will just get the bus instead.
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The terrorists will just get the bus instead.
use - but if I list them all here old estrang will probably want
my post ripped from its mounts too.