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Old 26th May 2012, 20:18
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JW411,

We can calm down over a nice (cheap) beer in October

We live an hour from central London but will be keeping well clear - unless someone gives me a ticket to the ladies volleyball
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Old 26th May 2012, 21:02
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Couldn't be any worse than where we are now!
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Old 26th May 2012, 21:35
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FERetd: I note that you have not countered any of the arguments on this thread.

If you followed this plot and were capable of understanding it, you would not need to pose such a puerile question.
Thank you for the gratuitous insult, now letís continue

There has never been a referendum in this country about entry to the European Union or its forerunner the European Common Market. There was a referendum, once, about remaining in the European Common Market.
Whatís that got to do with airspace restrictions during the London Olympics?

European law is made by unelected civil servants and unelected European Commissioners. The European parliament merely votes to approve or disapprove any such law.
Whatís that got to do with airspace restrictions during the London Olympics?

European constitutions are changed and citizens (U.K.) are denied a vote to accept or reject the new constitution despite promises from the two main political parties in this country.
[yawn] whatís that got to do Ö Oh, never mind

The constitution is altered slightly, called a "Treaty" and then no approval from the electorate is deemed necessary.
Are you still prattling on?

Even where referenda are held in Europe, they are repeated until the European Commissioners get the answer they want. For example, twice in Ireland over entry to the Euro zone and twice in Ireland over acceptance the new Constitution/Treaty. Not even a best of three option!
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Old 27th May 2012, 09:36
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Democracy???

SSK

Still no argument then!

My comment was not meant to be a gratuitous insult, however your continued lack of understanding of this thread - personal freedoms - ATC restrictions etc. does tend to invite these, I do apologise for obviously hurting your feelings.

I do note that you have not included your country of residence. Could that be significant?
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Old 28th May 2012, 19:30
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OMG, and I was complaining just yesterday thet the telly will be taken over by sport for a few weeks.

In a way, I'm glad it's not just non sports lovers who are peed off!!

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Old 29th May 2012, 12:00
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As I understand it from the briefing for our airfield (on the edge of the zone), the Royal Air Force is providing the controllers for a dedicated service Atlas Control which will provide LARS for the restricted zone. This is one of the many ways in which the RAF, NATS and CAA (and others, AOPA and Skydemon spring to mind) are putting great efforts into to mitigating the effects of the <choose expletive> olympics on aviation.
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Old 30th May 2012, 11:49
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FERetd wrote :

European constitutions are changed and citizens (U.K.) are denied a vote to accept or reject the new constitution despite promises from the two main political parties in this country.

The constitution is altered slightly, called a "Treaty" and then no approval from the electorate is deemed necessary.
With respect, that is down to the lack of a UK written constitution. Here in Ireland, we have such a document, and are voting tomorrow on the latest "treaty".

That said, if we give the wrong answer, we are normally asked again (Nice, Lisbon...)
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Old 30th May 2012, 13:00
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Simple answer to Olympic problem..

... establish it permanently in Greece. Competing countries pay Greek gov't to take part - pay rent for accommodation, entrance fees for athletes, etc etc.

Greeks get to fix their deficit problem, Olympics get to go home, nobody else has to deal with being occupied by the IOC dictatorship for two months.

Alternatively, sell the Dodecanese to the IOC. Same effects, with added benefit of a buffer state between Greece and Turkey.

Makes sense to me.

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Old 30th May 2012, 13:11
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Olympics at home in Greece

best idea on entire thread, or even entire www...
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