This is not about better stick and rudder skills.
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The Concern Should be TRAINING
I don’t think it’s a matter of hiring pilots with insufficient numbers of hours … it’s a matter of hiring pilots that have been shorted on what and how they have been trained … and then … that shortness in training background has not been taken into consideration for the required training at the airline. Yes, I know, training is expensive … but, as I’m told over and over again by those who have been at this even longer than I have been … you think training is expensive??? … Try an accident!!!
Just a comment on the banter back and forth about a minimum flight time requirement of 1500 hours BEFORE a pilot may seek employment with an airline…
According to information available from the US FAA public website, predictions for the US aviation industry – outside of the US commercial airline portion of that industry (please note … that is OUTSIDE of commercial airline operations) – indicate that ALL other flight operations will average approximately 34.4 million hours per year from now to the year 2023 (slightly less initially and slightly more toward the end of that time as the annual growth rate is projected to be approximately 3.2% per year, on average). An average of 34.4 million hours per year provides an average of 2.86 million hours per month over this period. The estimated "need" for pilots has said that up to 500 pilots per month will be required to fill vacant airline FO seats for the next 10+ years. If each pilot is required to have logged a minimum of 1500 hours prior to applying for an airline job, this would require approximately 750K hours. Or, said differently, in order for 500 pilots per month to be able to log a minimum of 1500 hours prior to being eligible to be hired into the airline business, just a bit over 26% of all the hours flown OUTSIDE of commercial airline service every month would have to be available to these “airline aspirants.” Does anyone have any idea of what this figure means?? Talk about a drastic impact on the aviation industry - either fully one quarter of what is currently flown will have to be flown by those future airline applicants (what happens to the pilots who would have normally flown those hours?) OR all of that time will have to be flown IN ADDITION to what has been projected. If the latter is the method used ... the question would be ... what would these pilots be doing for those hours ... just flying? What would be the rental cost to those folks? Would it be flying for pay? Who's going to have those jobs? Are we going to ask those future airline pilots to bid on the opportunity to fly and log those hours? Talk about "pay-to-fly" .... sheesh! Sounds to me to be a REAL problem looming on the horizon IF that proposed requirement becomes a real requirement.
Just a comment on the banter back and forth about a minimum flight time requirement of 1500 hours BEFORE a pilot may seek employment with an airline…
According to information available from the US FAA public website, predictions for the US aviation industry – outside of the US commercial airline portion of that industry (please note … that is OUTSIDE of commercial airline operations) – indicate that ALL other flight operations will average approximately 34.4 million hours per year from now to the year 2023 (slightly less initially and slightly more toward the end of that time as the annual growth rate is projected to be approximately 3.2% per year, on average). An average of 34.4 million hours per year provides an average of 2.86 million hours per month over this period. The estimated "need" for pilots has said that up to 500 pilots per month will be required to fill vacant airline FO seats for the next 10+ years. If each pilot is required to have logged a minimum of 1500 hours prior to applying for an airline job, this would require approximately 750K hours. Or, said differently, in order for 500 pilots per month to be able to log a minimum of 1500 hours prior to being eligible to be hired into the airline business, just a bit over 26% of all the hours flown OUTSIDE of commercial airline service every month would have to be available to these “airline aspirants.” Does anyone have any idea of what this figure means?? Talk about a drastic impact on the aviation industry - either fully one quarter of what is currently flown will have to be flown by those future airline applicants (what happens to the pilots who would have normally flown those hours?) OR all of that time will have to be flown IN ADDITION to what has been projected. If the latter is the method used ... the question would be ... what would these pilots be doing for those hours ... just flying? What would be the rental cost to those folks? Would it be flying for pay? Who's going to have those jobs? Are we going to ask those future airline pilots to bid on the opportunity to fly and log those hours? Talk about "pay-to-fly" .... sheesh! Sounds to me to be a REAL problem looming on the horizon IF that proposed requirement becomes a real requirement.
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This one REALLY IS about better stick and rudder skills (literally)
Have to say this is probably the best thread I've came across in a good while now...
Just my little contribution...
Just my little contribution...
