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Captain 'subdued' aboard JetBlue flight

Old 27th Mar 2012, 18:14
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Captain 'subdued' aboard JetBlue flight

Strange happenings.

JetBlue Plane Makes Emergency Landing In Amarillo After Co-Pilot Disrupts Flight CBS Dallas / Fort Worth

The world's going mad.
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Old 27th Mar 2012, 18:38
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Clearly there were serious potential implications, but I hope that the gentlemen in question gets all the help he needs.

Its no time to be pointing fingers 1(not that you were MEL), but now its on Pprune and Youtube the "well informed with hindsight" (i.e. the media) will probably ensure any temporary mental problems he had become permanant.
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Old 27th Mar 2012, 18:41
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I would also be pretty pissed if my co-pilot locked me out of the office. I mean, if you can't have a chat to a few passengers, get the blonde's telephone number in row 2 or have a Gin & Tonic....erratic behaviour ....poor chap was most probably been polite to pax for a change....you are right, what is the world becoming.
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Old 27th Mar 2012, 19:10
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Wait, the FO got the captain out of the flight deck, capt proceeded to chat up some passengers, another off duty pilot took over as PIC and the original captain was subdued? I bet they have a great story to tell

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A Jetblue Airbus A320-200, registration N796JB performing flight B6-191 from New York JFK,NY to Las Vegas,NV (USA), was enroute at FL340 about 55nm north of Amarillo,TX (USA) when the captain suffered a panic attack and behaved entirely incoherent forcing the first officer to seek assistance by cabin crew and passengers to overpower the captain, lock him out of the cockpit and have him restrained in the passenger cabin. Another Jetblue pilot flying as passenger assisted the first officer while diverting to Amarillo for a safe landing about 20 minutes later.

The airline confirmed the flight diverted because of a medical condition with the captain. Another captain travelling as passenger on the flight joined the first officer in the cockpit. The ill captain was taken to a local hospital. A replacement aircraft is going to be dispatched to Amarillo to continue the flight.

Passengers reported the captain had visited the bathroom and when returning to the cockpit basically went nuts and screamed about terrorists and bombs on the aircraft knocking the cockpit door. The first officer locked him out of the cockpit and had him overpowered. It took six people to sit on the captain to restrain him. Another pilot on board went to the cockpit to assist the first officer for the diversion.
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Old 27th Mar 2012, 19:23
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Medical malfunction

Sounds as though this could be script material for "House".

Oh, wait......drat..... series terminated.

Well done F/O and non-duty pilot and here is hope that the afflicted Captain recovers.
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Old 27th Mar 2012, 19:35
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Hang on. The Captain leaves the flightdeck to a comfort break. When he returns he finds the F.O. has locked him out. Too damn right I'd be worried about terrorists. I'd say the captain's initial reaction of banging on the door and shouting to be let in was perfectly normal. Seems everything escalated from there. I'd love to be in on the investigation; not sure the F.O. has covered himself in glory here.
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Old 27th Mar 2012, 19:47
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I thought the captain knew how to unlock the cockpit door.

A little CRM touchup and...


Yes, but as you also know, the person in the cockpit can stop that from happening!! Details won't be discussed here. Or are you implying he knew how to open the door using superior CRM tactics?
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Old 27th Mar 2012, 19:56
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Sounds rather similar to the 767 Air Canada FO who was later diagnosed with a brain tumour. http://www.pprune.org/canada/310940-...breakdown.html

He was locked out by the Captain and a Flight Attendant replaced him in the flightdeck.

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Old 27th Mar 2012, 19:59
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I am glad to see this situation was resolved without anyone being hurt. After seeing a fellow pilot self destruct and then kill himself, undoubtedly due to an undiagnosed mental illness, I feel for the poor Captain who will probably never fly again. This is no laughing matter, nobody is immune to a mental illness........
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Old 27th Mar 2012, 20:05
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Originally Posted by Herod
Hang on. The Captain leaves the flightdeck to a comfort break. When he returns he finds the F.O. has locked him out. Too damn right I'd be worried about terrorists. I'd say the captain's initial reaction of banging on the door and shouting to be let in was perfectly normal. Seems everything escalated from there. I'd love to be in on the investigation; not sure the F.O. has covered himself in glory here.

All the news reports state the Captain was acting irrational BEFORE he went for his comfort break: JetBlue captain subdued after pounding on cockpit - CBS News


A police officer and an off-duty airline pilot subdued a JetBlue captain Tuesday morning aboard a Las Vegas-bound flight when the captain started pounding on the cockpit door after the flight's co-pilot asked him to leave and subsequently locked him out, a federal official told CBS News.

The captain became incoherent during JetBlue Flight 191 from New York's John F. Kennedy International, prompting the co-pilot to get him to leave the cockpit, the official said. JetBlue said in a statement to CBS News that the flight was diverted to Amarillo, Texas, "for a medical situation involving the captain."
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Old 27th Mar 2012, 20:19
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Should we be surprised ?

In the last 15 years my management have orchestrated a predictable annual 'smash & grab' raid on my salary, pension and conditions....

And now the so-called regulator (UK CAA) wants to throw away the last 50 years of knowledge of pilot fatigue accrued from various accidents and mishaps... The ones we are supposed to learn from ?!?! Just so we can have a single pan-european set of regulations that in reality have no basis on anything.

I hope this guy recovers but it is enough to send anybody around the twist !
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Old 27th Mar 2012, 20:19
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Let's not forget that Journo's are lurking about folks.

Just sayin....
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Old 27th Mar 2012, 21:24
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Tell us again about the single-pilot airliners of the future....
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Old 27th Mar 2012, 21:52
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Was he carrying a gun, or has that programme been terminated?
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Old 27th Mar 2012, 22:09
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9YF...eature=related

Plenty of footage emerging showing the passengers genuinely thinking the guy outside the cockpit and not inside was the dangerous one.
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Old 27th Mar 2012, 23:15
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Sad story

Terribly sad story for this man and his family. Sometimes people just snap. Hard to see how he would fly again. Imagine the poor first officer. Tough position to find yourself in as a FO.
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Old 27th Mar 2012, 23:29
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Thank Goodness this guy wasn't a passenger! The outrage here would have been been over a thousand posts by now. What about if he worked for security? Prune would have melted down and we would have a China Syndrome.

If he had visited Pakistan recently and worked for the TSA on secondment to LHR to assist on the Crew Gate then the bonfire of the vanities would be alight. And, the Lord forgive, what if he was a j*urn*l*st as referred to above? The world would have to end tonight.

Are pilots (let alone captains) still Holier than Thou? Or can we put that one to bed?

If only 411A were around to see this. God Bless.
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Old 28th Mar 2012, 00:12
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I'm sure the Captain new how to open the door! The usual way by pressing # and waiting until the door is unlocked, or by entering the emergency code and waiting for the time lapse to be over.

However, due to the way he had conducted himself in the flight deck... We can assume the First Officer used his "superior CRM skills" to get the Captain out of the flight deck and then use the "deny" function of the CDLS thus preventing the keypad from having any further effect (normally set to inhibit the keypad for 5 mins)

From then on the Flightdeck door and entry procedures did exactly what they were designed to do.
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Old 28th Mar 2012, 00:14
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I'm sure the Captain new how to open the door! The usual way...
I don't think any of this stuff should be in the public domain.
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Old 28th Mar 2012, 00:17
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It already is! The CDLS manufacturer published it as part of their patent!

Hardly security sensitive... If the procedures are followed does not matter if they know how the door works.

I guarante you the folks at terror HQ know how they work.
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