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Old 24th Oct 2011, 23:15
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I used to use duct tape in the mines many years ago to bodge up (opps I mean repair) all sorts of things, used to get all manner of stick for it. I'm glad there's an aviation equivalent, makes me feel all warm and fuzzy again.

p.s I know you guys wouldn't bodge anything and would only use it in strict accordance to manufacturers policy
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Old 25th Oct 2011, 02:08
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Wink

Originally Posted by Load Toad
o I could use it on my old car & it'd go faster?
Yes, it improve also the speed of a car by 5 - 8 %. But without connection to an 115V AC System (and i do not think your car is fitted tith this) you have to cover 92 - 95 % of the front- and side windows. If you cover less than that, you only get a hypothetically speed increasement which only have influence to speed traps. (e.g.: missing of 80% covering increase the speed trap indication by 80%)
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Old 25th Oct 2011, 03:39
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cwatters From the story you reference about Hudson River:
what may have caused American Airlines flight 587 to crash shortly after takeoff from JFK airport
Actually, I'd call it the best controlled ditching I've seen on film. Better than I could ever do with anything.

[Apologies. Thread drift.]
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Old 25th Oct 2011, 04:46
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aaah - Duct Tape (or High speed tape) and WD40 - the only 2 tools you will ever need. If it moves, and it shouldn't, stick it in place with duct tape. If it doesn't move and it should, give it a squirt of WD40
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Old 25th Oct 2011, 04:54
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american 587 was not the hudson river ditching...
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Old 25th Oct 2011, 05:13
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I can only recall one incident in which a Captain was very nearly sucked out of a window, and it was not with Ryanair.
A BAC1-11 windew fell out nearly sucking out one of the pilots.

Became the topic of consideration for fatigue of Maintenance Engineers as they put screws in of too short a length during a night shift. There were lots of other safety factures too. The CAA Human Factures Course Modual 13 that was, covered it in great detail when I took the course at Kiddlington.
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Old 25th Oct 2011, 07:29
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american 587 was not the hudson river ditching...
Sorry for errors in my original post. Written in a rush.
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Old 25th Oct 2011, 07:50
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I echo fireflybob's comment.
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Old 25th Oct 2011, 08:07
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Howie - yes, of course I was aware of the details. I was making the point that it was a genuinely serious incident, and it was not Ryanair. I'm sure we all know which airline it was.

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Old 25th Oct 2011, 08:26
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Howie,

I believe it was worse than that. Nearly all of the bolts were too small in DIAMETER (!) and the remaining too short in length
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Old 25th Oct 2011, 08:41
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Was just about to say the same thing - it exposed major flaws in BA's maintenance practices and oversight. Interestingly, the same incorrect bolts had been used before without incident.
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Old 25th Oct 2011, 16:05
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Long live Heath Robinson. No pilot should be without chewing gum, duck tape, elastic bands and a roll of twine, oh, and lollipop sticks for splinting broken anything. Gone are the swiss penknife days, sadly.
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Old 25th Oct 2011, 16:30
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Going back on thread. If this aircraft had recently had a screen change then it is quite common to see tape over the edge. It is not the pressure seal that is taped over (this is between the screen and frame). Like others have said, the aerodynamic seal/filler was applied but probably did not have sufficient cure-time so was covered with HST until such time it had cured. Typical journo way of doing business to say the screen was held in place by tape
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Old 25th Oct 2011, 22:44
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..and who is to say the tape isn't being held in place by the window...?
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Old 25th Oct 2011, 22:49
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African tool kit



This is the deluxe version. The basic doesn't include the cable ties, and the hammer is replaced by half a brick.
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Old 25th Oct 2011, 23:04
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"A non-event blown out of proportion be sensationalistic and lazy journalism".

Sorry. As far as I can see at least one journalist asked Ryanair to comment and they refused. Why? All they had to do was issue a statement saying this was a routine procedure, carried out for the reasons outlined in the above posts.
To be honest, if I was on an aircraft and saw tape being applied to the cockpit windows, I would wonder why. Now I know. Wasn't this a missed opportunity to inform and educate passengers? Of course, the plane did have to turn back because the tape came loose. On most occasions, I would imagine, it stays in position.
I don't understand the attitude of airlines to perfectly reasonable requests for information from the press. A spokesperson for bmi once swore blind to me that no passengers had left their seats during take-off from Palma to Belfast because they believed air conditioning condensation was an indicator of fire at some location within the aircraft's fuselage.
It was "all nonsense", apparently.....until I told him the information about the incident had come from the CAA. "Ah," he said, conceding defeat, "I'll come back to you with a statement." He did this within five minutes.



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Old 25th Oct 2011, 23:08
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Because they got a load of free advertising out of it. MOL and co don't care whether it is negative or not as long as some one is writing about FR in the papers.
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Old 26th Oct 2011, 00:14
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That's a hell of a quiff the engineer in the background has though! What do you reckon Mr P?
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Old 26th Oct 2011, 05:30
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Note: For all the experts nothing wrong here Boeing 737 Maintenance Manual chapter 56-11-00 states if aircraft has to fly prior to the sealant curing, cover it with high speed tape.
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Old 26th Oct 2011, 05:55
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In Air Asia, it's quite common to have Scotch 425 Aluminum Foil Tape working wonders saving dispatch times!
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