Qantas pilots going on strike?
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Kiwi Grey,
That sort of arrangement has been common in the UK for many years. There are a lot of pilots around wearing BA uniforms and flying a/c in BA livery who are not on BA mainline terms and conditions. It's not a recent thing either, its been happening for a very long time.
3 Holer,
The pay of Aussie pilots may have increased significantly in the years subsequent to the 89 dispute but the Aus domestic pilot workforce had been devastated. As I remember it there were hundreds of pilots, forever bitter, who had to to roam the world seeking work. Many spent years away.
Strike action really is an act of desparation and rarely works well for the workforce.
TC
That sort of arrangement has been common in the UK for many years. There are a lot of pilots around wearing BA uniforms and flying a/c in BA livery who are not on BA mainline terms and conditions. It's not a recent thing either, its been happening for a very long time.
3 Holer,
The pay of Aussie pilots may have increased significantly in the years subsequent to the 89 dispute but the Aus domestic pilot workforce had been devastated. As I remember it there were hundreds of pilots, forever bitter, who had to to roam the world seeking work. Many spent years away.
Strike action really is an act of desparation and rarely works well for the workforce.
TC
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There is only one main similarity between the 89 dispute and the current situation, and that is the fact that both pilot groups were/are being forced into taking action by the companies involved. They are being "played" and maneuvered into this, they have very little option and yes it is going to be fraught with danger.
Sticking purely to work to rule will only bolster the little Irishman's claim that QF is nothing but a drain on the group share holders profits. It is all about profits and his salary, Pilots salaries and conditions only have a tiny fractional impact on an airfare.
This dispute should have every Australian working person very concerned.
Forget about the misrepresented press reports, about what you may think pilots get paid and what great conditions they have, it is irrelevant unless you fully understand the profession, including the stresses, risks, and work involved.
Simply put this in context with your current job, what ever that may be.
Your employer comes to you and says he is not making enough money because you are to expensive, he has plans to employ a bunch of Indonesians to do your job. It has been approved by the government because there will be direct cost savings to all Australians who use or buy his products.
Out of the goodness of his heart, he now promises to let you stay on and continue working for him, but you will have to accept the new Indonesian terms and conditions of employment!
What can you do? and how do you feel about this now? Your employer also has almost unlimited resources and media access to make you look like the bad guy when you complain.
Good luck and be smart guys.
Sticking purely to work to rule will only bolster the little Irishman's claim that QF is nothing but a drain on the group share holders profits. It is all about profits and his salary, Pilots salaries and conditions only have a tiny fractional impact on an airfare.
This dispute should have every Australian working person very concerned.
Forget about the misrepresented press reports, about what you may think pilots get paid and what great conditions they have, it is irrelevant unless you fully understand the profession, including the stresses, risks, and work involved.
Simply put this in context with your current job, what ever that may be.
Your employer comes to you and says he is not making enough money because you are to expensive, he has plans to employ a bunch of Indonesians to do your job. It has been approved by the government because there will be direct cost savings to all Australians who use or buy his products.
Out of the goodness of his heart, he now promises to let you stay on and continue working for him, but you will have to accept the new Indonesian terms and conditions of employment!
What can you do? and how do you feel about this now? Your employer also has almost unlimited resources and media access to make you look like the bad guy when you complain.
Good luck and be smart guys.
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Shockwave has it in a nutshell.
Sadly, it's a no-win situation.
I guess the 94% or so of Qantas' pilots have decided they must fight.
There is no alternative.
Work to rule?
Maybe.
I wish you were right, but that's moot.
Qantas' union have decided.
Good luck, colleagues.
Sadly, it's a no-win situation.
I guess the 94% or so of Qantas' pilots have decided they must fight.
There is no alternative.
Work to rule?
Maybe.
I wish you were right, but that's moot.
Qantas' union have decided.
Good luck, colleagues.
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what option
The pilots, engineers, cabin crew and even the warehouse people will all lose their jobs by "off shoring"; the Qantas employees have nothing to lose anymore as their jobs will be gone eventually.
Fight the fight and come out victorious.
The dreadfull alternative is to take the airline down with you.
After all joyce did call you kamikaze's.
good luck and god speed.
Fight the fight and come out victorious.
The dreadfull alternative is to take the airline down with you.
After all joyce did call you kamikaze's.
good luck and god speed.
I tell you it's scary. For those that dont know about 1989 take a read 1989 Australian pilots' dispute - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The entire Australian domestic airline industry ground to a halt. The Government was using military planes for domestic airlines. They brought in USA pilots and US registered planes. Many pilots never flew again.
Nobody ever conceived that would happen. The union says this is different. Last time was a labour Government, so is the current one.
I am personally scared that the little Irish **** running Qantas will happily ground the Qantas fleet, keep Jetstar running and then take back those that grovel.
Some have mortgages, ex-wives, kids and bills to pay. The whole fiasco could be a loss either way
The entire Australian domestic airline industry ground to a halt. The Government was using military planes for domestic airlines. They brought in USA pilots and US registered planes. Many pilots never flew again.
Nobody ever conceived that would happen. The union says this is different. Last time was a labour Government, so is the current one.
I am personally scared that the little Irish **** running Qantas will happily ground the Qantas fleet, keep Jetstar running and then take back those that grovel.
Some have mortgages, ex-wives, kids and bills to pay. The whole fiasco could be a loss either way
