Delta planes collide at Logan
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Delta planes collide at Logan
AmericanFlyer, there's audio from this on LiveATC: Boston Airliner Collision | LiveATC.net
I'm not convinced it occurred on a runway, as reported by the media. I'm sure we'll get a full report soon but it looked like the CRJ at least was outside the runway protected area, or that's where it stopped after the incident.
I'm not convinced it occurred on a runway, as reported by the media. I'm sure we'll get a full report soon but it looked like the CRJ at least was outside the runway protected area, or that's where it stopped after the incident.
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Two Delta jets collide on Logan airport taxiway - BostonHerald.com
The 767-300 was DL 266 heading out to AMS. Some good pix on the above site.
The 767-300 was DL 266 heading out to AMS. Some good pix on the above site.
Boston Logan International Airport spokesman Phil Orlandella said one person is complaining of neck pain after the crash.
There were no other injuries.
There were no other injuries.
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Thinking about this, it's quite clever (even quite surprising) that this sort of thing doesn't happen much more often. Several times I have had a moment of trepidation on a busy taxiway when something large was coming the other way on an adjacent taxiway. A double- or even triple-check that I was diligently on my yellow line, and the other folks were on theirs, and sure enough, we glide by with room to spare.
But when it comes to corners, converging or diverging lines, different turning circles, different gear positions of multiple types, the mathematics of what will fit in which space must explode into considerable complexity. I know I am showing my ignorance, but is there a surface movement equivalent of PANS-OPS or TERPS that is followed by those designing airfield layout?
But when it comes to corners, converging or diverging lines, different turning circles, different gear positions of multiple types, the mathematics of what will fit in which space must explode into considerable complexity. I know I am showing my ignorance, but is there a surface movement equivalent of PANS-OPS or TERPS that is followed by those designing airfield layout?
Boston Logan International Airport spokesman Phil Orlandella said one person is complaining of neck pain after the crash.
There were no other injuries.
There were no other injuries.
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According to this trusty news report, the bigger aircraft was a 787. Had no idea Delta had any! 
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According to this trusty news report, the bigger aircraft was a 787
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These regional jets really are a nuisance - always scooting around well below normal cockpit height and generally making a nuisance of themselves. No wonder they are prone to being bashed! Do away with them I say!
These regional jets really are a nuisance - always scooting around well below normal cockpit height and generally making a nuisance of themselves. No wonder they are prone to being bashed! Do away with them I say!
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She probably hacked into the pilot's cellphone....
).... I've actually stopped listening to the news because of it
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Map, longer story, ABC video with re-enactment graphics..
Jet hits smaller plane on taxiway at Logan International Airport in Boston - The Boston Globe
Jet hits smaller plane on taxiway at Logan International Airport in Boston - The Boston Globe
"I know I am showing my ignorance, but is there a surface movement equivalent of PANS-OPS or TERPS that is followed by those designing airfield layout?" (seems I've forgotten my v bulletin basics and can't properly create a quote box!)
Actually there is... Sort of. Part 139 approval of airports. Design standards and specifications for airports have been around for a long time. The problems associated with airport design and layout seem at least as complex as those applying to instrument procedure design too. And the costs associated with changing airport layout are staggering. LAX has spent Billions and Billions of $ over the last five decades on redesign and upgrades, seemingly always in in the midst one construction project or another. It will never be complete!
But even the most modern and well thought out airport design and layout will never be any guarantee against mishaps. From a pilot's perspective, whatever the layout of an airport you're taxiing on happens to be, you must know that mishaps can still happen. They just will. I figure part of my job is to do what I can to see to it that I'm not involved in any of them. I also count on ATC, other pilots, vehicle operators and other airport denizens to do their part too.
Even a huge new airport like DEN has taxiway and ramp rash incidents, though perhaps less so than MDW, EWR or numerous other airports originally designed in the DC-3 era. Airport operators may try to keep up, but space constraints and funding issues appear to limit their ability to do so effectively. It might be nice if every airport could be optimally designed and built, but it'll never be.
In the end, it comes down to ATC personnel and individual flightcrews being the last line of defense against mishaps. Just like always.
Actually there is... Sort of. Part 139 approval of airports. Design standards and specifications for airports have been around for a long time. The problems associated with airport design and layout seem at least as complex as those applying to instrument procedure design too. And the costs associated with changing airport layout are staggering. LAX has spent Billions and Billions of $ over the last five decades on redesign and upgrades, seemingly always in in the midst one construction project or another. It will never be complete!
But even the most modern and well thought out airport design and layout will never be any guarantee against mishaps. From a pilot's perspective, whatever the layout of an airport you're taxiing on happens to be, you must know that mishaps can still happen. They just will. I figure part of my job is to do what I can to see to it that I'm not involved in any of them. I also count on ATC, other pilots, vehicle operators and other airport denizens to do their part too.
Even a huge new airport like DEN has taxiway and ramp rash incidents, though perhaps less so than MDW, EWR or numerous other airports originally designed in the DC-3 era. Airport operators may try to keep up, but space constraints and funding issues appear to limit their ability to do so effectively. It might be nice if every airport could be optimally designed and built, but it'll never be.
In the end, it comes down to ATC personnel and individual flightcrews being the last line of defense against mishaps. Just like always.