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Old 11th Jul 2011, 20:58
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Stun Gun cell phone left on aircraft

Authorities are investigating how a stun gun managed to make it through security and onto a flight that landed at Newark Liberty International Airport, Fox 5 reported Sunday.
The FBI is investigating how the stun gun got aboard a JetBlue flight from Boson on Friday, a federal law enforcement source said.
According to sources, a striker 1800 stun gun was found by a cleaning crew inside the back pocket of a seat on Jet Blue flight 1179 after the passengers had disembarked, Fox 5 said.

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Sorry to be flippant, but I bet a lot of blokes out there secretly want to buy one of these for their wives/teenage children
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If you had succeeded in getting one onto an airplane to begin with, why would you then put it in the seat back pocket? And then, how in the world could you foget it there?
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oh thats simple!...

planted by TSA to create a new security scare
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On finding an item like this in a seat pocket, there are those who think it would be OK for it to be dropped out of the flightdeck window just before departure...
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why would you then put it in the seat back pocket?
well, I wouldnt keep that thing in my front pocket!

on that note, riding ferry boats to work each day, if someone leaves a bag or backpack unattended, and the crew finds it, they stop the boat, get the Coast Guard to search the vessel, then the bomb squad to remove it...after being late to work, or worse 3 hours late getting home, we passengers started walking the boat, and if we found unattended stuff, we would sit there and wait...and explain to the owner how happy we were, or toss it over the side...
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Perhaps if the TSA spent more time looking at the people they should do, instead of kids, retirees, cancer victims, etc., they might have spotted it?
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Surely the first thing they would do is check who was sitting in that seat. And then go and debrief the air marshall that was sitting there...
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Perhaps if the TSA spent more time looking at the people they should do, instead of kids, retirees, cancer victims, etc., they might have spotted it?
Aye.

Thought: this was a probe, by someone, who explored the art of the possible in leaving a tool for a follow on passenger to use.

It also might be that one of the flight attendants liked to engage in exotic sexual practices that includes stun guns, and for whatever reason left it in a seat pouch for later retrieval ... I realize that is an immense stretch, but weirder things have happened ...
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A similar event ocurred on BA many moons ago when sniffer dogs were being checked out on a parked aircraft. The police missed that device afer the exercise and it was found by a pax airborne on the next flight. I believe a BA manager lost his job over this.
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It also might be that one of the flight attendants liked to engage in exotic sexual practices that includes stun guns
Oh god, stunned and violated by a flight attendant (Hostie), doesn't get any better than that.
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Judging by the looks of some of them, they woud need that stun gun to get any chance of a date.
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Three possibilities spring to mind -

1) This was left where it was to prove a point, and the person responsible is looking forward to watching his creation unfold on the news/media, with a satisfied smirk on his/her face

or

2) Somebody genuinely wanted to transport this device from A to B, but got cold feet at the other end, not wanting to risk a pat down after disembarking.

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3) They wished to use it for not so innocent purposes, but again, lost their bottle mid-flight and stuffed the thing in the first available place that wasn't on their person or in their hand luggage.

Air marshal, anyone?
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Surely the first thing they would do is check who was sitting in that seat. And then go and debrief the air marshall that was sitting there...
Haha!
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investigating how the stun gun got aboard
Sheesh! That'll take the flatfeet some time then. Someone should tell them it was carried on board by a passenger, just like the other 100,000 mobiles that passed through the airport that day.

how a stun gun managed to make it through security
Lord, this is getting painful. It looks identical to a mobile phone. Does anyone really expect the muppets on security to know the difference, they must see several thousand phones each day and they're all the same. Lets not get hyped up over this or they'll make us dismantle our phones as well as taking our shoes and belts off so we inconveniently have to keep our contraband in our underpants instead...Imagine the delays that would cause. Don't scoff, its a realistic scenario if those idiots get a bug up their arse about it.

They never ever spotted the Leatherman tool that lived in my flight bag until 2 years ago and that looks like nothing else except a Leatherman. It must have passed through a couple of thousand x ray machines since 11/9. That's not a very impressive strike rate, is it?

What do people expect? Effective security? Get real.

Its not as if a stun gun is even a particularly useful means of hijacking an aircraft. A fist is just as effective.
Woah! Woah! Lets just not go there or we'll all be amputated before we fly...
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knee jerk react from TSA could be the banning of cellphones in the cabin.

you never know!
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knee jerk react from TSA could be the banning of cellphones in the cabin.
What a good idea - one that I would support, wholeheartedly!
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Ermmmmm........... only have carry on luggage!
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probably another scare tactic from authorities to justify more scanners.
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Just an anecdote; I flew an aircraft into a (French) airport and while in town bought a set of 6 steak knives. Put the bag on the conveyor going back to my aircraft and the officer turned towards me as my false knee pinged the machine. Behind her I could see the 6 knives filling the screen of the scanner. She then just lifted my bag of knives from the belt without turning around and handed it to me. I walked out onto the apron carrying my precious cargo of knives.
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