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Old 31st May 2001, 14:05
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Danger on the French interior lines. When you take a ticket Air France and that you get into a plane Air France, you can be sure to 95% that you will be on board to an other company which hides under name AF, it is the case, enters, other of PROTEUS AIRLINES which is the French company most dangerous. In air transports the leaders and the civil servant of stat aviation make very for steam(in silence) this noble profession for the benefit of money which is their principal concern to the detriment of the security. The Official Authorities (the direction of aviation and Air France) delivered a three years CTA to protéus then they are not at all to the safety requirements, all that is a history of dough, that amounts to Euros million, then all accidents and serious incidents must have overlooked! I am not waiting not the things in the same way bus for me and much other , the human lives are largely higher than the economic interests. The flight crew and the passengers, they don’t care and is that the message which I want to make pass. I am censured on the forum of radiocockpit. Why to be censured? It’s only because I dared to speak about the legal experts. By seeing their expertise report/ratio on the crash of Quiberon (which killed my wife, my daughter 7 year old and my 17 month old son), there is the sure right to be them has chicaneries there. A thing is certain it is that all my statements are with evidence. I will never release. I do not make party of the profession but I have much of flight to my credit. The combat that I carry out is a combat for the security, I do not want that my small family died for nothing. Passengers and personal flying personnel let us be the only ones concerned with the chicaneries of the leaders. It is necessary that that changes as fast as possible because the security is less and less respected and the risks of accidents mortals multiply. I have sent this text on several forums, I would like to send on sites which fight for the defense of the consumer. Do you have an idea or addresses of sites which have a forum, so that I can reveal chicaneries in air transports? I thank you and requests my sincere greetings. Pat.MOUNIER Bounce in the crash Protéus airlines out of bay of Quiberon of the 30/07/1998 which killed all its 12 passengers including two babies, two very young children and a pregnant mom. The association QCAV(crash Quiberon actions and truth) carries felt sorry for is necessary and use of is necessary against the DAC center Is. Several questions are raised today around this catastrophe due only to human faults. Amongst other things how this make does that L? was Official Authority, the DAC, allowed to give, with an airline a TCA ( certificat of air transport) whereas this one did not correspond to the essential safety requirements to have such an authorization? How this make does that the judge of instruction have not seen of they had one there is necessary and use of is necessary in the file? It was necessary that it is the association of the families of victims which discovers this illegality SERIOUS and prejudicial. The experts d legal would have owed the knowledge. In fact did know it or not? No expert need to be to know that Protéus regularly ridiculed the rules of sécurity (the law) since its creation. By delivering a CTA of agrément, the DAC center Is guaranteed, in illegality the Protéus company except safety requirements. Result 15 dead. It remains still much of questions without answers in this terrible catastrophe! To announce that protéus has like guard AIR France. Force is to note that these owners who make, unfortunately, left the beautiful world of the aviation succeeded in installing, with certain authorities, a at the very least doubtful system. The DAC does not do its work! it distributes CTA of kindness to the airlines which involve risks very serious as regards security.Sorry for my bad English.

 
Old 31st May 2001, 14:07
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T'es qu'un tocard mon vieux !
 
Old 31st May 2001, 15:59
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Les gens qui se permettent de traiter de tocard un home qui c’est fait tuer sa femme, sa fille de 7 ans et son fils de 17 mois, par une compagnie aérienne qui n’était pas du tout aux normes de sécurité , PROTEUS AIRLINES( AIR France) où il y a eu 7 mises en examen qui sont donc accusé par la loi. Ne peuvent être que complètement stupides ou impliqués.
Mais sur ce je pense avoir à faire à une petite merdeuse qui ne sait pas ce que c’est d’avoir des enfant et se faire détruire la vie.
Donc ma chère idiote je ne vais pas te lâcher, pour l’horreur du message que tu à envoyé. Et un jour je serai en bas de chez toi pour t’apprendre qu’il ne faut pas injurier les gens qui sont dans un tel malheur.
Bonne chance et surtout courage.
J’attends des excuses !!!!!



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Old 31st May 2001, 16:21
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People who allow themselves to treat of dead loss a man who
makes kill his wife, her daughter 7 year old and her 17 month old son,
by an airline which was not at all to the safety requirements,
PROTEUS AIRLINES(AIR France) where there were 7 settings in
examination which are thus shown by the law. Can only completely
stupid or be implied. But on this I think of having to make with
small dik head who don't have child and to be
made destroy the life. Therefore my dear idiot I will not release
you, for horror of your message that you with envoy. And a day I
will be in bottom of at home for learn it's not necessary to
insult people who are in such a misfortune. Good luck and especially
courage. I waiting for your excuses!!!!!


 
Old 31st May 2001, 16:48
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Attention,
Protéus airlines va assurer la ligne Lyon-Prague, sous les couleurs d’AIR FRANCE.
N’oublions pas que Protéus est la compagnie aérienne la plus dangereuse en France, crash et incidents graves répétés , le tout sous le couvert de la Direction de l’aviation civile qui en permettant illégalement à cette compagnie aérienne meurtrière de voler, lui à donnée la possibilité d’être absorbée par REGIONAL Compagnie Européenne Aérienne, magouilles très opaques de la part de certaines personnes du monde de l’aéronautique les intérêts financiers énormes font dispara'tre les règles de sécurités nécessaire pour le transport de passagers, pendant que des êtres humains sont moins considérés que des marchandises, les gros bonnets se remplissent considérablement les poches et tout ça avec la bénédiction d’ AIRE France.
Ne chercher plus sur les avions le nom de Protéus airlines , ils sont devenus REGIONAL.
Bravo à Air France pour avoir, en sous traitant avec des compagnies douteuses au niveau sécurité, éliminé toutes concurrences dans les transports aériens en France. Un tel monopole dans notre pays est incroyable, ils sont rois dans le trust Air France.
Heureusement qu’il nous reste le TGV qui est notre moyen de transport le plus sûr.
Mais, imaginer une seconde que les gens d’air France et ceux de la SNCF décident de faire grève en même temps, ce qui n’est pas du tout utopique, on aura une BELLE France BIEN BLOQUEE, finalement, nous sommes pire que les pays sous développés.
 
Old 31st May 2001, 17:07
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Attention, Protéus airlines will assure the line Lyon-Prague, under the colors of AIR FRANCE. Don’t forget Protéus is the aerial company the most dangerous in France, crash and repeated serious incidents, the all under the cover of the Direction of aviation civil that while allowing illegally to this deadly aerial company to fly, him to given the possibility d’être absorbed by REGIONAL Aerial European Company, doubtful very opaque on the part Of certain persons of the aeronautic world the huge financial interests do to disappear the rules of necessary securities for the transportation of fleeting, while of the be human less are considered that of the merchandises, the big caps fill considerably the pockets and all that with the blessing d’ AIRE France. Not look for more on the airplanes the name Protéus airlines, they became REGIONAL. Bravo to Air France to have, in under treating with doubtful companies to the level security, eliminated all competitions in the aerial transportations in France. Such a monopoly in our country is unbelievable, they are kings in the trust Air France. Fortunately is remain us the TGV that is our means of transportation the surest. But, imagine a second that the people d’Air France and those of the SNCF decide to be on strike at the same time, what it’s not of the all utopian, one will have a BEAUTIFUL France WELL BLOQUEE, finally, we are worse than the countries under developed.


 
Old 31st May 2001, 20:15
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Patou is right.

It is a shame to insult someone who has lost his wife and children in a crash. Shame on you. I'm really shocked and can't believe what I read ... Tocard ? Il y a des limites à ne pas dépasser, et je pense qu'une exclusion définitive de ce forum serait une sanction tout à fait adaptée à ce genre d'attitude. J'écrirais aux administrateurs pour attirer leur attention sur ce sinistre incident, qui ayant eu lieu en Français (comble de la lâcheté), est peut-^tre bien passé inaperçu.

Patou, I'm sorry for what happened to your family. However, I think some of your statements are driven by your pain and emotions, and maybe the situation is not as bad as you describe it.

Salut Patou.

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Old 31st May 2001, 22:55
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What?

This forum isn't French Airspace...
 
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Let us all treat Patou with the same sympathy and understanding on this forum as we do others in the same position like Crockett. The pain is so evident and the hurt so great you must try to put yourself, even briefly, in his shoes before hitting the submit button.

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Old 1st Jun 2001, 00:06
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My condolances , Mr patou.


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Old 1st Jun 2001, 18:16
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To date I received 98 answers, out of these 98 only one is abusive. I thus hold with all to thank you for your sympathy which makes me hot with the heart . I hold with well specifying that I have nothing against the pilots, quite to the contrary, (except of course with the two refuse who assassinated my wife and my children). The fight that I carry out is only based on the persons in charge of aviation (owners of company and civil servant) who make fun completely of the security to the detriment of the economic interests. I would not include/understand, if personnel flying personnel does not follow my combat bus did not don’t forget that only concerned risk to lose the life are only the passengers and the personnel flying personnel. **time-out** Protéus air lines have make pressure on the DAC center Be to have their certificate of air transport because they must enter to it bosom of Air France, evidence with proves (all those which want check be the good come) what be very serious be they was not At all with requirement de safety and must thus not have this certificate, result 15 dead (two baby, two very young child, of woman of which a enclosure and four home). And when I also say that protéus air lines (which flies to the colours to air France, now) is the company most dangerous of French interior transport, this with all the evidence! Be wary when you made an interior flight in France because you have many chances to find you on this fatal company which no more under the name of protéus airlines, but under the name of REGIONAL. Friendships and still thank you with all those which proposed their stalemate assistances


 
Old 1st Jun 2001, 18:38
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Patou

I certainly feel for you and your pain is evident. Why don't you take this to the press and raise your case. I don't think you will achieve much here, specially arguing in french.
You bring a very valid point which is: how safe are the feeder airlines. This certainly needs to be adressed and not only in France. To however take the mickey on Air France and describing it a pitt hole of heartless greedy suits is a little bit over the top mate.
If I am not mistaken you just very publicly threatened someone of harrassement and physical abuse, did you not ? I would erase this post if I were you because all that poor girl has to do is make a screen print out and go the cops. You've given ample clues for them to get your name. On top of being heartbroken you'll be in the dunk.
If you have a case, go the journos.



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