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Qantas 747-400 (EX-SIN) makes emergency landing in Singapore

Old 5th Nov 2010, 18:14
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Qantas no loss off life (yet), but a lot of incidents lately. The CEO said they were looking into the engine trouble of yesterday but als said it could NOT have been a maintenance issue...

Too many incidents should mean to look what the hell is going on!
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Old 5th Nov 2010, 18:16
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Come on JW. Vultures and Merlins don't count!! Only pulling your leg. I shut a few Avons down in my time too, but never the much maligned 502 or 507 except when made to do it in the sim. 5500 times 4 equals 22000 engine hours. Never let me down. Never understood why they never made the outboards to the same standard as the inboards. Never failed nearly as much! Regards mate.
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Old 5th Nov 2010, 18:38
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Have spoken to engineers I know at LHR and they say the 744s are some of the best around. They carry very few ADDs if any and if they do pick them up they are always actioned very quickly.

Funny how the press makes everything a drama, must have been light on real news.

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Old 5th Nov 2010, 19:08
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Hi Folks,
No pointing the finger at all, certainly not at this stage, but can anybody say, whether QANTAS do their own engine & other maintenance themselves within house, or is it contracted out, Far East or where ever?
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Old 5th Nov 2010, 19:17
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can anybody say
Yes. About 20 times already in the last 24 hours in these forums.
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Old 5th Nov 2010, 20:33
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QANTAS 744 at LHR today. Pan due loss of hydraulic pressure. No more info , went home at 1.30pm so missed the action , apart from the 2 lots of multiple go arounds , BA 777 SMOKING Gear, 27L and an AAL 777 with a hydraulic leak as exiting at N6, 27L.
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Old 5th Nov 2010, 20:44
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Now the 744 incident is being reported as a "flameout", which is not that big a deal, and wouldn't have hit the papers were it not for the fact it was coming on the heels of the 380 incident.
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Old 5th Nov 2010, 21:18
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A review of Qantas management practices and bonus driven policies, and a review of incompetence and mismanagement at the Australian Civil Aviation Safety Authority will not stop the repetitious Qantas incidents.

But it may certainly reduce the frequency and number of Qantas incidents!
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Old 5th Nov 2010, 21:40
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there must be a ****e load of Jet-A droplets floating around in the skies above SIN at the moment....
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Old 5th Nov 2010, 21:55
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"What engines do Qantas have on their 744s?"

Very much a RR airline

"Almost 30 years ago the first Rolls-Royce powered Boeing 747 arrived and they were to become the backbone of the Qantas long-haul fleet. The A380 is the successor to the 747 in the Qantas stable and if we are to have the same close relationship going forward then this new long-haul aircraft and its Trent 900 engine are central to the partnership.

The airline currently operates a fleet of 44 Rolls-Royce powered aircraft, the latest of which to arrive is the new Trent 900-powered A380. The airline has 20 Trent-powered A380s on order and has signed a TotalCare agreement with Rolls-Royce for the management of the Trent 900s in the fleet".

http://www.rolls-royce.com/civil/cus...heart_soul.jsp
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Old 5th Nov 2010, 22:57
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Mt Merupi

I suspect QANTAS second emergency in two days is a pure coincidence. However, hope that the proximity or Mount Merupi to the South is not having an adverse affect in the upper atmosphere.

Whilst evidence of damage to aircraft engines caused by volcanic dust from Iceland earlier this year was limited, the BA Speedbird9 incident in 1982 occurred when the aircraft flew into a cloud of ash from Mt Galunggung to the South east of Jakarta.

The A380 was southbound and apparently had just returned to service after maintenance in Germany. What was the routing for 744?
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Old 6th Nov 2010, 00:08
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QF engineering percentages?

Interesting quote from another QF spokesman see below. Can anyone substantiate what she is saying relating to the percentages or is it a matter of poetic licence?
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Speaking on Channel Nine, Qantas spokeswoman Olivia Wirth says offshore maintenance is not to blame for the latest engine fault. Ms Wirth says it is a coincidence the engine faults occurred on the same route within days.
"In fact I can report that this recent aircraft, the 747, the incident last night it was actually maintained in Avalon, in Australia," she said.
"Qantas has 85 per cent of our maintenance. In fact last year 92 per cent of our maintenance was done onshore, in Australia. We've got 5,500 engineers, they're well-trained."
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Volcanic Ash

Munnyspinner, the A380 engine failure happened six (6) minutes into the flight which departed Changi Intl. Not a chance that volcanic ash played any part in this failure. Likewise the QF6 B744 was early in the flight, a considerable distance from Mt Merapi which is near Jogyakarta in Central Java, and if the scant evidence available to date is any guide it was a precautionary shutdown due to engine fuel management problems.

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Qantas - No loss of life

Wingview, unfortunately Qantas has suffered fatal accidents, all pre-jet era. 79 lives were lost in various accidents prior to Qantas entering the jet age. The overrun by a B744 of the runway at Bangkok some years ago could easily have been their first fatal jet crash, however thanks to a rain soaked and boggy over-run area no lives were lost. Reportedly a $100 Million repair averted the loss of their first jet hull.
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Old 6th Nov 2010, 00:42
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Qantas also has GE engines in it's 744s.
The 6 newest [ER version] are GE engines and it had 3 second hand 744s with GEs [OEB/C/D "the ugly sisters"]
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Old 6th Nov 2010, 00:53
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There is a picture that has been taken off one of the Australian media sites that showed the aircraft at the gate with people working on engine 1. Was a RR.

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Old 6th Nov 2010, 01:35
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3 qantas aircraft having engine troubles in such a short time - but no one else?
I read somewhere that SIA have had five unscheduled engine changes on the A380 so far.
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Working on Eng No 1

Was this BEFORE DEPARTURE or AFTER RETURNING?????
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Old 6th Nov 2010, 07:45
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Interestingly, the flight and cabin crew from the aborted Qantas A380 flight were on this flight. I'm sure they'll get home sometime.
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Old 6th Nov 2010, 23:43
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I wonder how many First or Business Class fare paying passengers were reallocated seats further aft to make room for the A380 crew?
That A380 Captain deserves first class after the job he did.
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