TK A340 Landing Incident

[Charlie_Fox]

Turkish A340 scraped 25L at Brussels with nbr 1 engine on landing yesterday morning. A banal incident were it not for so many other TK threads.

[Nightrider]

Cannot see any relation to other TK-related threads.
And if an engine is used to shorten the stopping distance I doubt that this is a "banal" incident.

[Tediek]

what kind of angle of the wings do you need to have the number 1 engine to "kiss" the tarmac.? glad its an incident and not an accident.

[Lord Spandex Masher]

Cannot see any relation to other TK-related threads.

Err...the airline involved.

[PaperTiger]

Two pods apparently...
Incident: Turkish Airlines A343 at Brussels on Oct 24th 2010, engine pod strikes

[DouglasFlyer]

@Tediek

Wing tip or engine scrap:
L/G compressed: 14° bank
L/G not compressed: 18.5° bank

This is for A-340-300 types according Airbus A-340-3xx QRH

[hetfield]

And if an engine is used to shorten the stopping distance

Will two do a better job?

[planit]

Using all 4 pods is most effective, this may require alternate use of 1 +2 then 3+4 for directinal control, unless a very firm touchdown is used, however, taxiing to the gate can prove difficult.

[seckin]

The pilot has resigned according to the news..

[waldorfin]

Expat or local?

[seckin]

local, name is Hasan Biriz

[seckin]

The captain has declared hi fault to a journalist..
The reason of the incident as he stated,
while pushing the reverse throttle for #2&3 he accidentally throttled #1
he also said that they didnt feel anything from the flight deck..

[alternatelaw]

Amsterdam 2

It will happen, I say this as relayed from current inside sources!!
Reasons:
Lack of communication skills in all areas
Huge lack of English skills, ask any European controller
Lack of training, only box ticking
Lack of knowledge of systems
Huge man and boy attitude.
In some cases total disregard for checklists and SOP's ask any 737 driver.

ALT

[alternatelaw]

TK A340 Article

FYI
Incident: Turkish Airlines A343 at Brussels on Oct 24th 2010, engine pod strikes
ALT

[alternatelaw]

Handflying

It states in Ops Man hand flying not allowed and autopilot must be used at all times except for T/O and landing.
This is why thier flying skills are below standard as Autopilot generally disconnected at around 400' Agl.
I think most readers will be staarting to get the picture by now.

ALt

[BAW001]

For info, the aircraft TC-JDN just departed Brussels at 1200 local with ADES Istanbul.

Regards,
001

[gchangflyer]

Its quite worrying-I've SEEN two TK incidents in the last 3 mnths at FAJS-one VERY unstable takeoff-interestingly #1 engine also nearly scraped as acft rotated, the other gear not retracted on takeoff til way past 5nm...oddly both times it was TC-JIJ...i would honestly reconsider flying with TK...

[seckin]

I think this bit of info will be helpful, after the AMS crash, TK signed with DLR in order to eliminate newly hired FO s. First they sent 44 candidates, only 18 passed the first part and only 7 managed to complete the test.
and guess what?
TK solved the problem, only the first part is required now

[hetfield]

TK signed with DLR in order to eliminate newly hired FO s. First they sent 44 candidates, only 18 passed the first part and only 7 managed to complete the test.
and guess what?
TK solved the problem, only the first part is required now

TK is obviously afraid about First Officers who speak up or even take over.

[foreverboeing]

Also while one of their domestic flight,they forgot to retract the gear and didn't realise it because of some small failure after T/O.They realised that they were running sort of fuel and they initiated a diversion to Konya and realized that they forgot the gear down when the cpt ordered gear down for landing!After refueling they continued their journey without a report!!Globally YOURS!!