Pilot arrested in EHAM.

[babemagnet]

52 year old Captain from the Us arrested before flight after a tip.

[golfyankeesierra]

According nu.nl | Het laatste nieuws het eerst op nu.nl, breathalyzer test showed 105 ug/l (0,23 promille), while max 90 ug/l (0,2 promille) is allowed. Also it is reported the pilot (from an undisclosed US airline) was fined €700 ($1000) which he paid promptly.

[Carbon Bootprint]

Looks like you got it one, KC:

Delta Airlines spokesman Anthony Black said, "Flight #35, Amsterdam to Newark, was cancelled after a crew member appeared to be unfit for duty."

Source article here

[KBPsen]

Drunk pilot

So now you are drunk with a 0,23 promille? Interesting.

[jammers]

Here we go again....Let's get all the facts lads before we jump to conclusions!

[captplaystation]

Turn the clock back 20 yrs. . . . well OK I won't go there.

0.2? . . 0.23? . . 0.3 ?. . . split duty with 3hrs in the sack? (alone unfortunately ) self induced fatigue due to commuting? finally how many of us are fit for duty ?personally I need a couple of glasses of wine to stop me bothering about it.

I sincerely hope he walks away with a resolution to score earlier in the evening next time, way to go

[jackx123]

Didn't know breathalyzer was deciding the level of alcohol in the blood. Usually it's only a blood sample that will do the trick

[AnthonyGA]

Didn't know breathalyzer was deciding the level of alcohol in the blood. Usually it's only a blood sample that will do the trick.

There's a very strong correlation between the level of expired alcohol and the level of alcohol in the blood, enough to provide prima facie evidence of the BAC.

So now you are drunk with a 0,23 promille?

Drunk is a subjective term, but 0.23 is over the limit, and under the influence.

Fortunately, McDonald's doesn't impose a limit, so it shouldn't be a problem for this individual in the future.

[jackx123]

There's a very strong correlation between the level of expired alcohol and the level of alcohol in the blood, enough to provide prima facie evidence of the BAC.

It is not a strong correlation. As a matter of fact if you're on Atkins diet it will increase the reading. The only accurate way of measuring BAC is to take a blood sample. See below links.

Breathalyzer Accuracy - Page 1

Breathalyzer / Breath-Tester Accuracy Facts & Information

Breathalyzer Accuracy

[411A]

Breathalyzer Accuracy

It ain't that good...about as accurate (sometimes) as a recent Florida radar speeding case.
In this instance, the defendant questioned the accuracy of the radar 'gun' so...the judge adjurned the court to the courthouse front lawn, and upon further testing, an oak tree was 'clocked' at 83mph.
Case dismissed, forthwith.

[20driver]

What is the driving limit in NL

I'm not familiar with the unit promile? What is the equivalent BAC and what is the promile limit for driving in Holland?

Seems odd they'd just fine you and send you on your way. Stranger still if they did not do a blood sample. i suspect we have not heard the complete story.

Thanks
20driver

[Carrier]

Quote: "Drunk is a subjective term, but 0.23 is over the limit,......"

Whose limit and on what basis? The limit for a pilot with an FAA licence is .04% blood alcohol level. The FAA is the world's largest civil aviation agency with an excellent safety record for those under its jurisdiction. If the FAA considers .04% to be an acceptable limit then anything less from a minor league player is not based on safety but on other factors such as raising revenue, harassing foreigners, etc.

[RoyHudd]

Like being fined for speeding at 31 mph in a 30 mph limit. Tecnically over the limit but of no practical significance. ).23 is barely detectable

[bereboot]

@20Driver , street traffic limit is 0,5 promille

[TopBunk]

Whose limit and on what basis? The limit for a pilot with an FAA licence is .04% blood alcohol level. The FAA is the world's largest civil aviation agency with an excellent safety record for those under its jurisdiction. If the FAA considers .04% to be an acceptable limit then anything less from a minor league player is not based on safety but on other factors such as raising revenue, harassing foreigners, etc.

We're the biggest, we're the best, we know it all ......

Do you think that US rules re speeding apply when you're abroad? Do you think you should drive on the right whenin the UK, Australia, Japan, much of Africa? Do you think you should still bear the right to carry arms when abroad?

Probably not, in which case I suggest that you have to agree to adapt to local rules on this as well, and the whole purpose of a law is to define limits of acceptability to society.

OK, so in this case it was very adjacent to the limit, and I feel for the guy, especially if he hadn't been advised of any difference to the US limit by his company, but that probably is reflected in the small fine he received rather than a potentially much larger one.

[doubleu-anker]

I dont know how much this guy had to drink on the layover, maybe nothing.

The fact is if you are on a layover keep away from alcohol, period. I wont touch the stuff inside 48hrs before a flight. In fact I rarely drink at all now.

It is just not worth the risk. It is a safety and a career progression issue. Forget about the bygone days, this is now the reality.

[Payscale]

Bereroot..
What would depend on which country you are in. Dubai is 0,0. Which is impossible. We always have some alcohol in the blood. Eat some bread and take suger with your latte?

[AnthonyGA]

The limit for a pilot with an FAA licence is .04% blood alcohol level.

That's the limit for certificate actions. However, persons performing "safety-sensitive" duties, including piloting, are subject to a limit of 0.02. They must not perform flying duties at 0.02 or above. They won't lose their certificates for 0.021, for example, but they cannot perform flying duties at that level.

Additionally, any evidence of impairment is potentially sufficient for the FAA, even if the blood or expired alcohol level is below 0.04.

[jradam]

slipped in a coffee

Anonymous tip and 0.023? I wonder how much grain aclohol I'd have to dump in your coffee to get you to 0.023? And would you taste it? Orange juice maybe?

[Squawk7777]

I'm not familiar with the unit promile?

A promile is ‰ (like a % but with an extra 0 on the right hand side). If you quote someone in the US of having 0,04 % BAC then it is 0,4 ‰.

Pro - mile (1,000) percent (100).