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Old 15th Aug 2010, 11:29
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emergency landing at gatwick

A flight out of manchester this morning to turkey has made an emergency landing at gatwick anyone else any news ?
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Old 15th Aug 2010, 12:53
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Galley input

Packaging in oven !!

BBC News - Smoke forces jet to make emergency landing at Gatwick
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Old 15th Aug 2010, 13:12
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Incident: Thomas Cook B763 over North Sea on Aug 15th 2010, unruly oven A Thomas Cook Boeing 767-300, registration G-DAJC performing flight MT-975K from Manchester,EN (UK) to Dalaman (Turkey) with 320 passengers, was enroute at FL370 overhead the North Sea about 45nm west of Amsterdam (Netherlands) when smoke began to emanate from a galley prompting the crew to divert to London Gatwick,EN (UK). Galley power was disconnected and the smoke dissipated. The airplane landed safely in Gatwick about 30 minutes later.

The airline reported that packaging material within a galley oven had begun smoking. The airplane was released back to flight and returned to Manchester for a crew change landing in Manchester 6.5 hours after departure. The airplane will subsequently resume the journey to Dalaman.

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Old 15th Aug 2010, 14:06
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What are example of packaging materials inside an oven.

is that like me using my microwave to reheat meals in unapproved containers?
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Old 15th Aug 2010, 14:18
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Emergency landing?? I think not. 45 miles from Amsterdam, yet he diverts to Gatwick - 180 miles away...??
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Old 15th Aug 2010, 16:56
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HEATHROW DIRECTOR, While I fully respect your experience in Air Traffic.

45 Miles from Amsterdam is very close to Top of Descent for a controlled straight in approach into London Gatwick 26L in a Boeing 767-300 with winglets (very good glider). Little time is saved by a spiral approach into Amsterdam. 45 miles is not sufficient to lose 37000ft with maybe a possible tailwind?

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Old 15th Aug 2010, 17:04
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Aircraft descenced pretty fast though, quite a bit faster than I'm used to seeing on normal Gatwick inbounds.
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Old 15th Aug 2010, 17:05
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OK point taken. Lucky it didn't seriously catch fire on the way!
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Old 15th Aug 2010, 17:17
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What are example of packaging materials inside an oven.
Probably someone heating buns without the oven insert. Tends to cause the bun bag getting caught in the fan.
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Old 15th Aug 2010, 18:08
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Over cooked....over reaction ....?????

Oven fire (well smoke from packing materials anyway) power off, smoke dissipated.............well one could consider continuing to destination......?


or


Divertion and possible overweight landing....?

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Here to prevoke thought !!
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Old 15th Aug 2010, 18:13
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Aircraft descenced pretty fast though, quite a bit faster than I'm used to seeing on normal Gatwick inbounds.
If you suspect that you might be on fire you will get down as quick as possible then you have many more quick options open to you to chuck it on the ground.

well one could consider continuing to destination
I wouldn't!! Nobody should be criticised for the decision to get it down, and somewhere you have an engineering base would make sense if you can.
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Old 15th Aug 2010, 18:38
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The B767 on a Manchester > Dalaman is usually under MLM (Max Landing Mass) during take off from Manchester. The aircraft is designed for long haul. You can even do round trip fuel on the B767 MAN/DLM/MAN. In a round trip fuel situation it would be over MLM (Max landing mass).

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Old 15th Aug 2010, 18:58
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Packaging

I have seen it a few times and I teach it in the sim: was it raining when the crew got on?
I am sure someone will come up with the connection. I hope!!
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Old 15th Aug 2010, 19:02
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as far as i can read into this, it was not an 'Emergency Landing'. in fact, the quote from TCX in the newspaper states
A spokesman for the firm said the aircraft landed at Gatwick at about 0840 BST as a precautiony measure and all the people were taken off.
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so it was a precautionary landing, thus being able to land where they preferred, not where they 'Had To'.

come on Ppruneers, lets not get as bad as the media in hyping up & sensationalisation of non events..........
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Old 15th Aug 2010, 19:02
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was it raining when the crew got on?
Have also seen a pair of brown shoes that didn't start out that colour.
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Old 16th Aug 2010, 04:25
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If you have an emergency with smoke, your MLW is the least of your concerns..
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Old 16th Aug 2010, 05:29
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Please please please don't tell the Daily Mail or we'll see headlines like 'fire rages on aircraft as horrified passengers look on'

Good for the crew on a wise decision to divert to LGW where I'm sure TC have very good engineering facilities.
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Old 16th Aug 2010, 07:01
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Heathrow Director you are not far wrong. Over 30 minutes is no emergency landing. It is true that a "normal" descent will take 120 miles or so but if you go for it it will take 80ish and the aim s to land within 15 minutes.
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Old 16th Aug 2010, 07:18
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pilot sounded worried enough when he spoke to us
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Whilst not wanting to feed the frenzy of journalistic excess that often accompanies such events, I'd suggest the following as a source of info for anyone who pilots aircraft of ANY size, particularly the "Smoke for thought" section.

On-Board Fires and click on 'History of In-Flight Fires'

Despite my suggestions/complaints, our Boeing QRH for cockpit fire/smoke is still printed in small type, thus rendering it somewhat useless in thick smoke. In an era when we see reductions in recall items I see this particular checklist as being one that you might want to be able to action from memory.


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