United 967 diverted to DIA -- turbulence injuries
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United 967 diverted to DIA -- turbulence injuries
About 30 people were injured this evening, one seriously, as a United Airlines passenger airplane experienced severe turbulence, authorities say.
The plane, Flight 967 enroute from Dulles International Airport in Washington D.C. to Los Angeles, landed at about 7:45 p.m.
The plane, Flight 967 enroute from Dulles International Airport in Washington D.C. to Los Angeles, landed at about 7:45 p.m.
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The Independent had this to say...
Dozens injured as US flight hits turbulence - Europe, World - The Independent
Go figure!
Dozens injured as US flight hits turbulence - Europe, World - The Independent
The turbulence was "just a huge up and down", said passenger Kaoma Bechaz, a 19-year-old Australian in the US to visit her boyfriend.
She told the Denver Post that the head of the woman sitting next to her hit the side of the cabin, leaving a crack above the window, and a girl across the aisle flew into the air and hit the ceiling.
Ms Bechaz said she was not thrown around because her seat belt was tight
She told the Denver Post that the head of the woman sitting next to her hit the side of the cabin, leaving a crack above the window, and a girl across the aisle flew into the air and hit the ceiling.
Ms Bechaz said she was not thrown around because her seat belt was tight
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I think airlines should emphasise a little stronger how important it is to keep buckled up.
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I think airlines should emphasise a little stronger how important it is to keep buckled up.
It's true for airplanes, cars, roller-coasters, etc. Some people are safety-conscious and some aren't.
I haven't seen exact numbers, but my guess is that the difference in the number of people who belt up when given basic safety information and the number who do so when given an exhaustive, strong lecture on safety isn't that big. If they don't get it the first time, they never will.
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Wearing of seatbelts
Presumably this occurred while the seatbelt sign was turned off. I would assume therefore that many of the 20 pax injured were on way to/from or in toilets - as opposed to in seat with seatbelt off...
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No, the flight was from IAD to LAX and it diverted to DIA (Denver International Airport).
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wear seatbelts! it is even printed on the seatback in front of you.
pilots should be more alert for turbulence...many don't monitor the outside air temp (static air temp) for clues.
monitoring winds aloft constantly may help too. wonder what the forecasts/airmets/sigmets were for that day.
also...even though kansas is as flat as twiggy, mountain wave can be felt up to 700 miles downwind from the rockies.
just heard one passenger say that there were a few little bumps before the big one.
pilots should be more alert for turbulence...many don't monitor the outside air temp (static air temp) for clues.
monitoring winds aloft constantly may help too. wonder what the forecasts/airmets/sigmets were for that day.
also...even though kansas is as flat as twiggy, mountain wave can be felt up to 700 miles downwind from the rockies.
just heard one passenger say that there were a few little bumps before the big one.
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They do the same thing at Kansas City, where locals call it KCI (Kansas City International) instead of the correct MCI/KMCI (for the originally named Mid-Continent International).
You'd think that if the folks in Los Angeles can resist the temption to call LAX LIA (Los Angeles International Airport) then folks in both Denver and Kansas City could properly refer to their own airports, but I reckon not...
You'd think that if the folks in Los Angeles can resist the temption to call LAX LIA (Los Angeles International Airport) then folks in both Denver and Kansas City could properly refer to their own airports, but I reckon not...
People who think seat belts are too uncool to wear usually aren't going to grasp their importance from seeing a safety demonstration, no matter how many times it's repeated.
It might even do them some good... 
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Flight log here:
FlightAware > Track Log > UAL967 > 20-Jul-2010 > KIAD-KDEN
FlightAware > Track Log > UAL967 > 20-Jul-2010 > KIAD-KDEN
The article has all the data the Feds need on this case, yet I read on another online news outlet that the Feds are investigating.
The young lady clearly stated that she was in her seatbelt, and she had no problem.
Passengers are, on every flight I have been on for the last thirty years, cautioned more than once over the PA system to "wear you lap belts when in your seat" because all airlines know that you can hit clear air turbulence at the altitudes where airlines fly.
What needs investigating?
Anyone?
The young lady clearly stated that she was in her seatbelt, and she had no problem.
Passengers are, on every flight I have been on for the last thirty years, cautioned more than once over the PA system to "wear you lap belts when in your seat" because all airlines know that you can hit clear air turbulence at the altitudes where airlines fly.
What needs investigating?
Anyone?
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It might be worthwhile to consider seatbelt policy as a cause of injuries in these instances. I'm just SLF, but I notice on domestic U.S. flights that carriers tend to leave the seatbelt sign on for most of the climb phase, during even light turbulence, and for the entire descent. The result? Lines of people at the bathroom when the seatbelt light goes off and therefore out of their seats in more vulnerable positions.
When I fly ANA to Japan, I notice they take the seatbelt sign off after takeoff and it generally stays off even when turbulence gets rather noticeable. So, lines rarely form at the toilets and more people are likely to be seated and at least have the chance to be buckled up should a sudden bad bump come along.
I realize long flight time permits toilet visits to be more spread out, but the more judicious use of the seatbelt sign is still a point to consider.
When I fly ANA to Japan, I notice they take the seatbelt sign off after takeoff and it generally stays off even when turbulence gets rather noticeable. So, lines rarely form at the toilets and more people are likely to be seated and at least have the chance to be buckled up should a sudden bad bump come along.
I realize long flight time permits toilet visits to be more spread out, but the more judicious use of the seatbelt sign is still a point to consider.
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Are serving carts ever an issue during turbulence? Cannot remember reading about any instance where those caused injury.
Yes. A colleague of mine was flying first on SABENA when they hit turbulance, a cart came flying down the aisle from the rear of the plane towards the open cockpit door (remember those happy pre-terrorist days), cabin staff getting out of the way, coffee and tea flying everywhere scalding passengers. My colleague tackled the cart and stopped it entering the cockpit and doing nasty things there.
SABENA - do we all remember for what the letters stood ?
Yes. A colleague of mine was flying first on SABENA when they hit turbulance, a cart came flying down the aisle from the rear of the plane towards the open cockpit door (remember those happy pre-terrorist days), cabin staff getting out of the way, coffee and tea flying everywhere scalding passengers. My colleague tackled the cart and stopped it entering the cockpit and doing nasty things there.
SABENA - do we all remember for what the letters stood ?
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