United 967 diverted to DIA -- turbulence injuries
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Picture worth thousands..
May I ask why there are no cameras or streaming video of cabins inflight ? After riding on the 380 and seeing the 3 different views outside the aircraft, why not have cameras inside the cabins as one of the reasons being this very subject ? Cameras activate automatically upon certain mechanical criteria like dash cams do in an ambulance upon a certain brake force or impact and they actually record the 10 seconds prior to the event. Or cameras that could be pilot or CC activated in the event of a " situation" in the cabin with a pax. No I don't have all the medical records of all the reported injuries but I have been in the medical field long enough ( 10 years but it only takes about 1 month for this) to know that some of those " reported injuries" were sustained not from turbulance but rather the potential for financial gain.
Cameras would provide a true eyewitness account to what happened each second of the event. This could answer alot of investigational queries as well as determining " mechanism of injury" a term used to identify cause for trauma ie.. flying object, ejection from seat ( " what? no seatbelt on ? too bad buddy, you were warned, try and sue us"), self inflicted injury for financial gain ( yep, love those organized slip and falls caught on video) and the famous " My neck my back I want a new Cadillac"
Take portions of this video ( with respect to pt. privacy) and show it during the safety briefing before takeoff so that those pax who want to defy SB and gravity rules might think twice. Of course I can't provide an alternative for those who are scared out of their minds to fly in the first place, watch the video and request to be taken back to the gate
For me, I choose to have a couple of small jim beams and save them for turbulence. One good jolt, 2 straight shots and I'm the calmest, happiest pax and have a better chance a surviving the thrill ride just as drunk drivers survive car wrecks. Loose limbs
Cameras would provide a true eyewitness account to what happened each second of the event. This could answer alot of investigational queries as well as determining " mechanism of injury" a term used to identify cause for trauma ie.. flying object, ejection from seat ( " what? no seatbelt on ? too bad buddy, you were warned, try and sue us"), self inflicted injury for financial gain ( yep, love those organized slip and falls caught on video) and the famous " My neck my back I want a new Cadillac"
Take portions of this video ( with respect to pt. privacy) and show it during the safety briefing before takeoff so that those pax who want to defy SB and gravity rules might think twice. Of course I can't provide an alternative for those who are scared out of their minds to fly in the first place, watch the video and request to be taken back to the gate
For me, I choose to have a couple of small jim beams and save them for turbulence. One good jolt, 2 straight shots and I'm the calmest, happiest pax and have a better chance a surviving the thrill ride just as drunk drivers survive car wrecks. Loose limbs
Last edited by SassyPilotsWife; 2nd Aug 2010 at 17:19. Reason: spelling or 2 jim beams, you pick
Maybe if the safety briefings would communicate what really happens in severe turbulence and in an explosive decompression people would pay attention? As it stands now, those briefings are somewhere between useless and annoying, but hardly pertinent to emergencies due to their softened down language.
I'm not saying put the fear of god in them, but show evidence of what can happen. I like the cabin camera idea!
I'm not saying put the fear of god in them, but show evidence of what can happen. I like the cabin camera idea!
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Seat belt signs ignored by pax
It's pretty obvious that we need "a common strategy" on use of the seat belt sign. Right now, on US airlines, compliance with the sign is, it seems to me, in a state of anarchy. Pilots leave it on too much, passengers ignore it in smooth air and not, F/A's don't pay any attention to it and nobody enforces it. The result is an unacceptable exposure to serious injury and even death.
"Federal Regulations require passengers to comply with all lighted signs and placards ... except the seat belt sign"? Pilots need to inform passengers and F/A's about the need to sit down and buckle up IN REAL TIME (and not leave the SBS on when it's smooth and no forecast of bumps. I've noticed we have about 7 to 10 minutes in smooth air before people start getting up even with the sign illuminated).
We need to give our people every safe opportunity to leave their seats. It would appear to me we shouldn't "cry wolf" and create a situation where nobody is paying attention when the cry is real.
To have people up and about with the seat belt sign on makes the sign a disagreement light; either the people need to be seated because its dangerous for them to be up - or - pilots need to turn the sign off.
We need to contact ALPA Safety, our training departments and the FAA about this before somebody gets nailed.
I invite you to read this thread. In it I especially like the comment about Qantas:
Pilots And The Seatbelt Sign... — Civil Aviation Forum | Airliners.net
"Federal Regulations require passengers to comply with all lighted signs and placards ... except the seat belt sign"? Pilots need to inform passengers and F/A's about the need to sit down and buckle up IN REAL TIME (and not leave the SBS on when it's smooth and no forecast of bumps. I've noticed we have about 7 to 10 minutes in smooth air before people start getting up even with the sign illuminated).
We need to give our people every safe opportunity to leave their seats. It would appear to me we shouldn't "cry wolf" and create a situation where nobody is paying attention when the cry is real.
To have people up and about with the seat belt sign on makes the sign a disagreement light; either the people need to be seated because its dangerous for them to be up - or - pilots need to turn the sign off.
We need to contact ALPA Safety, our training departments and the FAA about this before somebody gets nailed.
I invite you to read this thread. In it I especially like the comment about Qantas:
Pilots And The Seatbelt Sign... — Civil Aviation Forum | Airliners.net
