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Old 31st Jul 2010, 20:40
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FAA asks American to re-inspect 767’s

What absolute surprise.
Remember, AA changed a DC10 engine using a forklift (ORD)...sorry, not allowed.
Many folks are dead as a direct result.

Last I counted, AA had the greatest number of aircraft maintenance violations...and fines.
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Old 31st Jul 2010, 20:59
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The DC10 forklift problem is well documented. I'm sure they didn't do that again. Why did you say that?
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Old 31st Jul 2010, 22:30
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Why did you say that?
Because, if you are paying attention, AA has had the most FAA monetary fines for maintence violations, in recent years.
Look it up.
Perhaps it is time AA paid the price...short certificate suspension.
Just think...airplanes grounded...do you not think this would not get shareholders attention, big time?

Ha...heads would roll in AA management, make NO mistake.
It's about time.
AA is the second largest trunk aircarrier in the USA, and...it's about time they started acting like one.
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Old 31st Jul 2010, 22:57
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American took a big hit on the way the wiring on some system on the MD80 was wired. Other than that I don't think AA has been at fault for any major problem.
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Old 31st Jul 2010, 23:11
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411A American might not be the biggest but they will be there forever. I don't think the past will affect them in any way.
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Old 3rd Aug 2010, 10:55
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If we go back to the late 90s the now defunct Ansett Australia 767-200s were grounded as well documented here on PPruNe.
http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/4...ne-cracks.html
Some say this was the beginning of the end for AN.....
Here 7.30 Report - 12/04/2001: CASA grounds Ansetts 767 fleet

As a sideline, In those days ANs 767s were fitted with Three seater cockpits to keep the unions happy at the time when they were purchased.
Official history from CASA at the time.
http://www.icao.int/FSIX/sr/synopsis...1_Synopsis.pdf

Similar to AA (sure different equipment age etc) ANs 767s were real work horses hence pylon cracking of the type is not startling news.
By P51 guy...American might not be the biggest but they will be there forever. I don't think the past will affect them in any way.
I agree, AA has made a lot of progress in addressing its maintenance procedures, having said that, the FAA seem to be doing their job better than ever before.
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Old 3rd Aug 2010, 17:07
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When is everyone going to realise that it is a known problem on both the B757 & B767 pylons that they will have fittings crack.
Boeing brought in SBs for both B757 & B767 and they are ADs, problem is you have a very long time scale before they have to carried out.
My company carried out the SB known as Sips many years ago on its B757s, l think a 20 year age date is involved, so a good number of B757 are still to be done.
It is the same for the B767, not sure on compliance times for B767.
Basically any B767 built before around mid 1997 has the old designed pylon installed and is covered by the AD.
It is obvious that AA still has not carried out the terminating action for this SB on all its fleet.
Problem is that if you have the APB winglets fitted, the inspection for pre SB pylons is a very much reduced interval. Now l guess is that AA has inspected a few a/c and found cracks, so the interval is being reduced even more.
If you have a B767-300F a/c and want to install the APB winglets you are not allowed to until the Sips SB has been terminated.
So in all it is not a big surprise that AA has found cracks and by the way the B757 terminating SB has not stopped some of the pylon fittings cracking either.
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Old 4th Aug 2010, 12:56
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While people are mentioning related incidents, a Nationwide B732 had #2 engine separate on rotation at FACT a few years ago. Almost got ugly. Whole fleet grounded, and eventually the end of the airline.
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