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Old 22nd May 2010, 21:45
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I'm sure....

....she dumped him after she discovered what Jetblue pays.
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Old 22nd May 2010, 22:27
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TWA 260 / 19Feb55 Martin 404 No 40416; pilot off course, hits mountain. CFIT, against Sandia Peak (departed ABQ), the Board did write the PC implying "intentional" deviation from route, and intentional selection of course and altitude by PIC (see SB's _The Search for Air Safety_, pg208, for documentation of the suicide rumors and affects on the family of Capt Spong). In other cases of rumored suicide, the AARs do _NOT_ include those widely held rumors.
Incomplete facts are often worse than no facts at all. A very close friend of mine was on the TWA Accident Investigation Team. Through his tireless efforts he convinced the CAB to change the probable cause from that you state to reasons unknown and possibly a malfunctioning fluxgate compass.

This wikipedia link provides a good summary:

TWA Flight 260 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


TWA management became convinced that the back course was also suspect, so they had it removed from their operations manual.

It is very, very difficult to get the Board (CAB or superceding NTSB) to change its probable cause. The new or additional evidence has to be compelling, which it was in this case.


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Old 23rd May 2010, 12:17
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the obvious solution--

to prevent anything like this to happen again--

is to go back to nature's way of multiple mating--

why be so committed to one person (especially at the 'girlfriend' stage) to the point that their rejection causes 'you' to feel so depressed?

one should have several 'friends' of the opposite sex--

(yes, a bit of tongue in cheek-but some serious consideration as well)
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Old 23rd May 2010, 12:22
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to prevent anything like this to happen again--

is to go back to nature's way of multiple mating--

why be so committed to one person (especially at the 'girlfriend' stage) to the point that their rejection causes 'you' to feel so depressed?

one should have several 'friends' of the opposite sex--

(yes, a bit of tongue in cheek-but some serious consideration as well)
In terms of total human history until not too long ago arranged marriages seemed to eliminate a lot of the "mating ritual" issues.
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Old 23rd May 2010, 14:05
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I remembered the search for the four 500 pound bombs he had on the racks when he flew into the mountain, .....and Wiki to the rescue.

Craig D. Button - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Air Force looked extensively into his personal relationships, including one described as unrequited love.

Air Force examines personal relationships of pilot who killed himself
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IIRC, before TSA allowed pilots to carry guns into the cockpit, the pilots requesting to do so were subject to additional psychological screening, as well as training.
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Old 23rd May 2010, 17:32
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A friend of mine commented that an airline captain is responsible for more lives in his career then any surgeon could possibly be. Yes, we need pilots who are responsible, professional, and mentaly sound..

It's been my assertion that if you hire a pilot who has 2 decades of showing up to the airport, flying a plane safely, it says more about his performance then just whether he is a good stick.

He has shown that his personal life hasn't affected his performance.....that he has made it through various stages of experience and ability, a variety of equipment, a variety of weather...a variety of terrible problems, relationships, personal issues(life)...and he's still here...
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Old 24th May 2010, 14:16
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I just read that the ''girlfriend" was/is a flight attendant and she informed a Federal Air Marshal who called state police at Logan/Boston. (when she got the text saying the pilot would...)
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Old 25th May 2010, 00:11
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PTH...We all read that days ago on this thread....
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Old 25th May 2010, 11:03
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This guy should never be allowed to fly again. In any capacity!
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Old 26th May 2010, 12:31
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'Persecuted' Air France pilot living as a tramp


The style of this Quantas pilot's website betrays a tortured mind.

It reminds me of Norbert Jacquet, the Air France 747 pilot who questioned the results of the A320 accident in Habsheim, Alsace (the A320 air display into the trees).

He went from Air France 747 pilot to prison, to a mental asylum, and finally to a street tramp inside 12 years. As I understand it, he is still spitting invective and bile against Air France and Airbus, while living in a gutter somewhere in Paris.

Un mensonge d'Etat


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In 2003, I underwent a new confinement for one month in the prison of Fresnes (order of confinement.). This finished to destroy my life. I am in the street and I am a tramp since the beginning of October 2003.

Of course, with such a tortured mind and such an ingrained persecution complex (however valid) it is difficult to know what is true and what is hallucinatory, but it is a sad story whatever the case. We hang onto our positions and lives with fingernails, which is why so many captains will agree to fly on minimum fuels and all the other unsafe demands of the low-cost brigade.


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Old 26th May 2010, 21:02
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The style of this Quantas pilot's website betrays a tortured mind.
Absolutely - a good rule of thumb is to ask oneself 'is this normal?'.

Definitely something's not right, the anxiety & strident, frantic element in the writing style seems unusual.

Very shocking about the AF pilot apparently living on the street - I wasn't aware of this outcome.

As his troubles seem to have begun only when he challenged the official version of the incident, and that he was proven to be vindicated in the claim about the switched FDR, it does indeed seem possible that he was the victim of a calculated campaign of persecution to destroy and discredit him.
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Old 26th May 2010, 23:35
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In my career as an airline pilot I have seen so many attempts by jilted pilot girlfriends, usually flight attendants, who did all kinds of things to try to get him fired. Alcoholism, drugs and instability led the list.

If her report on his text is all they have he will probably clear himself in due time. Drunk texting should not be used as evidence in court or most of us would be in trouble. She dumped him was the report but things get twisted when emotions run high.

Hopefully he isn't as represented so he can get his life back.
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Old 27th May 2010, 08:06
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In my career as an airline pilot I have seen so many attempts by jilted pilot girlfriends, usually flight attendants, who did all kinds of things to try to get him fired. Alcoholism, drugs and instability led the list.
Got the 'T'-shirt for that one !
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