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Old 15th Apr 2010, 09:31
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Ezy however still is dragging its arse...according to their website one should 'monitor the flight' before setting off....to a closed for business airport, I imagine?????

Com'on guys, if any of you orange boffins are reading this...

PULL YOUR FINGERS OUT
They are waiting to give their 250 hour wannabees some much needed volvanic ash 1 Bravo departure experience!!!!
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Ezy however still is dragging its arse...according to their website one should 'monitor the flight' before setting off....to a closed for business airport, I imagine?????

Com'on guys, if any of you orange boffins are reading this...

PULL YOUR FINGERS OUT
They are waiting to give their 250 hour wannabees some much needed volvanic ash 1 Bravo departure experience!!!!


information is being pulled together now and will be out in the domain shortly
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Old 15th Apr 2010, 09:48
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Talking Living the dream...hahahaha

@cheekychappie

Excellent, this could mean a nice evening in front of my telly instead of treapsing through LGW to try and get in for work!!


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<<Saw the EY ORD-AUH flight routing south of London. That's rather a long way from a Great Circle track>>

Those flights route over the UK frequently. Remember that aircraft do not necessarily fly Great Circle. Over the Atlantic much depends on weather systems and in Europe they fly laid down air routes.
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Old 15th Apr 2010, 09:53
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Has UK airspace been closed for this long in recent history? Apart from the occasional ATC computer problem I'm struggling to think of an example. Even during those failures there were some movements.
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Old 15th Apr 2010, 09:55
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September 11, 2001 was the last major airspace closure I guess?
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Saw the EY ORD-AUH flight routing south of London. That's rather a long way from a Great Circle track - wonder how much longer it's going to take them?
This flight and many other N America - Gulf nonstops frequently pass over the UK en route - dependant on the Ocean tracks/ Jetstream locations.

However, interesting transits of airspace over Central UK before the airspace closed were SAS, Finnair and Aeroflot flights from N America to their home countries. They certainly were off the beaten track

Anyway, taking my anorak off, can anyone remember volcanic ash closing UK airspace before?. I can't and I've got my bus pass, so been around for a few years.

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Old 15th Apr 2010, 09:56
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I was in France at the time so not sure for UK, but I remember the skies were awfully quiet post 9/11.
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Old 15th Apr 2010, 09:58
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wouldnt it be great with the airspace shut down we can all jump in our spam cans and over fly heathrow..it will give the controllers something to do! I have always wanted to overfly heathrow in a glider!
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Old 15th Apr 2010, 09:59
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Channel NewsAsia - Iceland volcano blast could last long time expert - channelnewsasia.com

"It is very variable how long these eruptions last - anywhere from a few days to over a year," Magnus Tumi Gudmundsson, a professor of geophysics and civil protection advisor, told AFP. "Judging from the intensity of this one, it could last a long time," he added.
Interesting days (or months) ahead.
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Old 15th Apr 2010, 10:02
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Now a clever designer/engineer out there can surely produce an EAPS package suitable for all jets, available in pretty quick time? err EAPS = Engine air particle seperator (as fitted to the cabs operating in dusty/dessert conditions)
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Old 15th Apr 2010, 10:04
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Lets see how much of a novelty it is if it goes on for months. The economic cost could be very significant.
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Old 15th Apr 2010, 10:05
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Apparently Ryanair flights have departed the Oslo region VFR at FL190 to get around the zero rate…........

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Old 15th Apr 2010, 10:12
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Good day for GA nothing in the skies!!
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Old 15th Apr 2010, 10:14
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Somebody mentioned earlier about the possibility of regional turboprops using lower levels (outside CAS) to operate their flights.

I guess this would be a perfectly legal flight, but would the airline allow it in practice? Or would it contravene a policy or otherwise be deemed 'too risky' flying outside CAS?
Well flybe have cancelled all their Dash 8 Q400 turboprop flights for today...
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Old 15th Apr 2010, 10:15
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Any bizzjet pilots wanting to depart/arrive the UK today?
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Old 15th Apr 2010, 10:16
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Apparently Ryanair flights have departed the Oslo region VFR at FL190 to get around the zero rate…........
This seems like a pretty genius idea to me

Can commercial passenger traffic actually [legally] fly VFR ?
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There has been both a biz prop of some sort depart NCL this morning for the MCT, and also one scheduled pax to IOM. Both VFR.
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Radio 4 World at One to interview an 'expert' who will say larger eruptions possible from other vents. Worth a listen at 1.00pm.

Ashes to ashes?
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Just announced that Dutch airspace will be closing this afternoon as well
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