FAA allows pilots to take antidepressants
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If you really believe it is that simple (even in a country with a good welfare system) YOU are the one in need of help.
I can't say I find myself totally reassured by this change in policy, but YOU have managed to post the 2 most asinine posts on the whole thread so far within 5 posts.
Open your eyes to the rest of the world, and listen & try to comprehend, rather than just posting provocative nonsense for the sake of it
I can't say I find myself totally reassured by this change in policy, but YOU have managed to post the 2 most asinine posts on the whole thread so far within 5 posts.
Open your eyes to the rest of the world, and listen & try to comprehend, rather than just posting provocative nonsense for the sake of it
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Captainplaystation: If you want to put a car payment ahead of professional responsibility and the safety of your passengers, go find another proffession where your job performance will not have any effect on people lives.
Seems the only peeps ok with airline pilots being on antidepressents are airline pilots, every 'passenger' I talked to, thought it was nuts.
Oh, well...another rant about what pilots 'should do' vs what they will do.
Seems the only peeps ok with airline pilots being on antidepressents are airline pilots, every 'passenger' I talked to, thought it was nuts.
Oh, well...another rant about what pilots 'should do' vs what they will do.
Controversial, moi?
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I have a great deal of knowledge on the subject in question. We have several very reasoned and intelligent posts on this thread.
Your posts have that dreadful combination, so often seen, of supreme arrogance coupled with great ignorance. The main reason I have refrained from the debate is because of the inevitable drivel from yourself and a few others and as the saying goes there are none so blind as those that do not wish to see.
With scientifically sound analytical skills like that we should all sit up and take notice.
I have a great deal of knowledge on the subject in question. We have several very reasoned and intelligent posts on this thread.
Your posts have that dreadful combination, so often seen, of supreme arrogance coupled with great ignorance. The main reason I have refrained from the debate is because of the inevitable drivel from yourself and a few others and as the saying goes there are none so blind as those that do not wish to see.
...every 'passenger' I talked to, thought it was nuts.
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It amazes me to hear so much garbage from people/pilots that have no idea what taking these kind of medecines does to someone.
It actually helps and it has nothing to do with having suicidal thoughts.
captplaystation: you normaly have good ideas but this time you don't know what you are talking about...ask your romanian wife/girlfriend to really question her friend. Personally, working for ryanair itself should be a reason for having suicidal thoughts! Post what you know and just read the things you can't understand.
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It actually helps and it has nothing to do with having suicidal thoughts.
captplaystation: you normaly have good ideas but this time you don't know what you are talking about...ask your romanian wife/girlfriend to really question her friend. Personally, working for ryanair itself should be a reason for having suicidal thoughts! Post what you know and just read the things you can't understand.
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Grumpy.
Do you not think that as a non pilot you maybe scaremongering ?
Why bother ?
Explain the buzz please.
PS. if you are taking anything other than authorised drugs whilst flying, plainly non declared, then you ought to be strung up.
And then shot, twice.
Why bother ?
Explain the buzz please.
PS. if you are taking anything other than authorised drugs whilst flying, plainly non declared, then you ought to be strung up.
And then shot, twice.
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If you're talking to me, I'm a little confused. I am a pilot, though not an airline pilot, and I don't take any drugs while flying or for that matter any other time.
I don't understand how quoting an FAA announcement would be scaremongering.
I don't understand how quoting an FAA announcement would be scaremongering.
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As a pilot who had to give up flying because the pay at the entry level was too low to support my family, I just wanted to chime in with my $0.02
I think that 28 days is too short to determine whether the medication is actually working or not. I recently went through a bad spell, and spent almost a year on them. I was suffering from depression and anxiety. The first type failed to work effectively, the second type had a wierd side effect (although the missus loved it), and the third type actually worked. Bear in mind it took almost 4 months to establish the correct medication that worked for ME. Not all pills react the same for different people. But the bottom line is, they helped me (and yes I still work in an aviation related role, but in the office, not the air).
If somebody told me that one of the guys in the front office was on antidepressants I truly wouldn't have an issue with it if he had found the right meds etc.
And I'm really sorry to say to those of you that have not suffered this affliction, don't judge those that have and return to their positions. We don't all react the same way, and although you think you have felt the same way as somebody who admits to the medication, maybe you haven't. I lost my wife through suicide and had to ID her body. Tell me that won't impact you!
Anyway, that's my thought process.
I think that 28 days is too short to determine whether the medication is actually working or not. I recently went through a bad spell, and spent almost a year on them. I was suffering from depression and anxiety. The first type failed to work effectively, the second type had a wierd side effect (although the missus loved it), and the third type actually worked. Bear in mind it took almost 4 months to establish the correct medication that worked for ME. Not all pills react the same for different people. But the bottom line is, they helped me (and yes I still work in an aviation related role, but in the office, not the air).
If somebody told me that one of the guys in the front office was on antidepressants I truly wouldn't have an issue with it if he had found the right meds etc.
And I'm really sorry to say to those of you that have not suffered this affliction, don't judge those that have and return to their positions. We don't all react the same way, and although you think you have felt the same way as somebody who admits to the medication, maybe you haven't. I lost my wife through suicide and had to ID her body. Tell me that won't impact you!
Anyway, that's my thought process.
GW,
First let me say that I am truly sorry for the trauma of your having to identify your wife.
In Oz, the 28 days rule says that you must be stable on your medication and dosage for 28 days. It took me about 6 weeks to first find the right dose, then 28 days to prove to everyone, especially myself, that I was stable. I weaned off the meds after about 18 months.
First let me say that I am truly sorry for the trauma of your having to identify your wife.
In Oz, the 28 days rule says that you must be stable on your medication and dosage for 28 days. It took me about 6 weeks to first find the right dose, then 28 days to prove to everyone, especially myself, that I was stable. I weaned off the meds after about 18 months.
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I can think of at least 4 pilots who I have flown with in the last 10 years who exhibited strong symptoms of clinical depression.
Their aloofness played a part in what I would politely call 'Underperformance'.
I can be certain that if they were in a career that did not ground you when admitting to suffering depression, they would probably have got help. 2 of the 4 I flew with, lost their licences permanently a year or so later after I flew with them.
Mental health is not just a stigma in our industry, it is a noose to our careers.
I applaud the FAA for this move and look forward to a similar move by the UK CAA.
Their aloofness played a part in what I would politely call 'Underperformance'.
I can be certain that if they were in a career that did not ground you when admitting to suffering depression, they would probably have got help. 2 of the 4 I flew with, lost their licences permanently a year or so later after I flew with them.
Mental health is not just a stigma in our industry, it is a noose to our careers.
I applaud the FAA for this move and look forward to a similar move by the UK CAA.
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