First Officer flies 13 years without license
I have come across this sort of subterfuge twice in my career.
The first incident was quickly sorted out. The person concerned was claiming seniority and promotion based upon his flying time in the RAF. Sadly for him, the 5,000 hours or so that he was claiming was not earned while sitting in a seat that had a window view.
The second one was a real Walter Mitty character who ended up as an LTC on the DC-10. He would regale us all down the route (especially the girls) with stories of how he ferried Hunters to the Far East in the RAF which must have been a particularly clever trick since he had never been a pilot in the RAF.
The interesting thing is that he would continue to recite these yarns even after I (and many others) had pointed out the above to him.
I am sure that it is a total coincidence but both of them had been navigators.
The first incident was quickly sorted out. The person concerned was claiming seniority and promotion based upon his flying time in the RAF. Sadly for him, the 5,000 hours or so that he was claiming was not earned while sitting in a seat that had a window view.
The second one was a real Walter Mitty character who ended up as an LTC on the DC-10. He would regale us all down the route (especially the girls) with stories of how he ferried Hunters to the Far East in the RAF which must have been a particularly clever trick since he had never been a pilot in the RAF.
The interesting thing is that he would continue to recite these yarns even after I (and many others) had pointed out the above to him.
I am sure that it is a total coincidence but both of them had been navigators.
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There was also the chap, back in the 'old days' when Singapore 'hosted' applicants and their families, who applied for a 747 post with SA.
He turned up with licence and log book, complete with current 747 rating, stepped into the simulator at Changi and promptly stalled it on take off.
Lots of head scratching by the Training Captain and the sim engineers who concluded that it must have been a sim fault. Sent said applicant away for a couple of days full board in Singapore whilst the sim was checked. Second attempt resulted in the same outcome as the first.
During the stunned silence the applicant threw his hands up and admitted that he had forged all the documents and just wanted some free time in Singapore!
How true the story is I will leave up to you but it does make a good yarn!
He turned up with licence and log book, complete with current 747 rating, stepped into the simulator at Changi and promptly stalled it on take off.
Lots of head scratching by the Training Captain and the sim engineers who concluded that it must have been a sim fault. Sent said applicant away for a couple of days full board in Singapore whilst the sim was checked. Second attempt resulted in the same outcome as the first.
During the stunned silence the applicant threw his hands up and admitted that he had forged all the documents and just wanted some free time in Singapore!
How true the story is I will leave up to you but it does make a good yarn!
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Stranger than fiction
Fake Swedish pilot flies passenger jets for 13 years without a licence... and is fined just £1,700
Read more: Fake Swedish pilot Thomas Salme flies Air One jets for 13 years | Mail Online
Read more: Fake Swedish pilot Thomas Salme flies Air One jets for 13 years | Mail Online
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logbooks
In this neck of the wood there were a few folk that had very 'creative' logbooks when accruing time for a CPL. there were various ways, go to the US lose your logbook swear an affidavit saying it had 10k hrs in it when you lost it (how and if the CAA fell for this I don't know), Go to the US and 2 or three share some cheap time - all logging it as P1. Glider towing etc ...who knows how many hours you really did.
All good clean fun!
All good clean fun!
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dear sir
dont you thing that some one should check all the pilots of that airlines for saftey reason because during 13 years it could be more pilot without lic.
dont you thing that some one should check all the pilots of that airlines for saftey reason because during 13 years it could be more pilot without lic.
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I find it quite remarkable that this chap was able to pass all sim checks etc for 13 years with, as I understand, only some self-taught time in a simulator and then had an unremarkable career flying in some of the most crowded sky with some of the foulest weather.
Makes me think I'd rather have him up front than some licensed aircrew given their failings, as revealed in the crash reports being published lately.
Makes me think I'd rather have him up front than some licensed aircrew given their failings, as revealed in the crash reports being published lately.
