Bagdhad FIC
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Iraqi vis-a-vis Iran ATC
Having flown extensively into Iraqi airspace (Baghdad, Basrah, Erbil, Sulaimanyah) and through (enroute) Iranian airspace over the last 2 years, the differences are interesting.
Iraqi ATC comms are unreliabe ( at the border and low level ) although improving, Iranian ATC comms generally have excellent enroute coverage.
Someone mentioned "politics"? Yes, the Iranian ATC do have the distinction of closing and opening airspace occasionally to enroute civil traffic to/from Afghanistan without notice or without any attempt to publish an associated notam. When rejected at the boundary, the silence (English) is deafening from ATC when you repeatedly request the related notam or try to quote the overflight permission.
Iraqi ATC comms are unreliabe ( at the border and low level ) although improving, Iranian ATC comms generally have excellent enroute coverage.
Someone mentioned "politics"? Yes, the Iranian ATC do have the distinction of closing and opening airspace occasionally to enroute civil traffic to/from Afghanistan without notice or without any attempt to publish an associated notam. When rejected at the boundary, the silence (English) is deafening from ATC when you repeatedly request the related notam or try to quote the overflight permission.
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Anyone else been getting RVSM levels in Iraq? Been flying there since the early days, you have to have your wits about you. I actually find Ankara are just as bad at times. You would think they would stick up another couple of transmitters about the place wouldnt you?
I agree with the comments on offsets, something I use regularly whilst flying around Afghainistan as well (lower airspace below 290).
I agree with the comments on offsets, something I use regularly whilst flying around Afghainistan as well (lower airspace below 290).
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Your report is very good, mainly your last statement.
I flew myself for 3 years (2003/2006) to 7 destinations within Iraq, including Balad, not Balat, over Iran, to 3 destinations in Afghanistan and Uzbekistan (Khanabad), all american operated air bases, and for many
useful reasons I video taped most of the spiral approaches, I have around
40 hours of it.
The Iranian ATC was by far the most professional and polite, my only problem with them was when they asked me what was my cargo to Bagram or Kandahar (sic).
Anyway, everything improved with time.
I flew myself for 3 years (2003/2006) to 7 destinations within Iraq, including Balad, not Balat, over Iran, to 3 destinations in Afghanistan and Uzbekistan (Khanabad), all american operated air bases, and for many
useful reasons I video taped most of the spiral approaches, I have around
40 hours of it.
The Iranian ATC was by far the most professional and polite, my only problem with them was when they asked me what was my cargo to Bagram or Kandahar (sic).
Anyway, everything improved with time.
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Pedras
my only problem with them was when they asked me what was my cargo to Bagram or Kandahar (sic).
Assume they're as intelligent as you, connive and use the standard Soviet answer: "Agricultural machinery parts."
