Amsterdam Airlines off taxitrack at EHBK
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overheard some cabin crew talking about Amsterdam Airlines in the bus at AMS the other day complaining about that the A320 they have are very old, managment is bad and maintanance is poor. So stupid when people start complaining with more people around them.
The DC-3 I flew in in Canada last year was "very old". Amsterdam Airlines's A320s are 16 and 13 years old respectively. The older one (PH-AAX) started life with Dragonair in '93 and was with Mexicana before joining Amsterdam A/L. The other (PH-AAY), which had the problem at MST, started with SAETA in 1996 and was last with America West / US Airways.
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problem solved ?
The rumour says that they found the main gears serviced much to high on the c-check before delivery to amsterdam airlines, this with an faulty gnd/flt sensor caused the aircraft while turning on gnd to become "airborne" and cut out the nosewheel steering.
Seems like a probable cause to me.
I guess the official report will tell more
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Wings 1011
Seems like a probable cause to me.
I guess the official report will tell more
Regards
Wings 1011
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Problem Solved???
I flew Dc-3s with over 70,000hrs on them. They were well maintained, and we had few problems except that the company always tried to overload us.
There were clues that we looked for on walkaround after the freight was loaded. We looked at the main gear struts. they said a lot about gross weight.
If we couldn't get a fist between the tailwheel and the fuselage, we knew we were too heavy aft, if not overweight. And, finally, on takeoff, if the tail didn't lift by 60 kts., we aborted.
Flying an aft loaded DC-3 for several hours is no fun. It can't be trimmed. It's a constant fight to stay within 200 or 300 ft. of assigned altitude, and the landing has to be handled very carefully or the airplane will start hopping until it stalls and rolls unless power is added and a go around initiated for another try.
Most people don't realize that the 3 has a swept wing. She's very docile until she's not.
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I would think that a crew rated in an A320 might notice that the struts were over inflated, and that that fact might fool the beast into thinking it was airborne. squat switches only work when something is squating on them
There were clues that we looked for on walkaround after the freight was loaded. We looked at the main gear struts. they said a lot about gross weight.
If we couldn't get a fist between the tailwheel and the fuselage, we knew we were too heavy aft, if not overweight. And, finally, on takeoff, if the tail didn't lift by 60 kts., we aborted.
Flying an aft loaded DC-3 for several hours is no fun. It can't be trimmed. It's a constant fight to stay within 200 or 300 ft. of assigned altitude, and the landing has to be handled very carefully or the airplane will start hopping until it stalls and rolls unless power is added and a go around initiated for another try.
Most people don't realize that the 3 has a swept wing. She's very docile until she's not.
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I would think that a crew rated in an A320 might notice that the struts were over inflated, and that that fact might fool the beast into thinking it was airborne. squat switches only work when something is squating on them
short flights long nights
70000 hours?!?...and that is just DC3s? Have you ever slept/eaten/done something else other than been airborne in a DC3?
short flights long nights
Ahhh..I see...its all about how you read the sentence.
