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SQ Pilots - Give ALPAS Your View

Old 16th May 2001, 02:19
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What SQ considers as "training fees" will include meal allowances and hotel costs of the safety FO whilst you are doing line training.
And under the company's policy, a safety FO is required until the trainee is "checked-out" for "solo-ops".
Hope this clears up the picture.
 
Old 16th May 2001, 03:18
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Training fees also include the cost of your uniform, transport from airport to hotel and vice versa when on a layover, the full cost of your air ticket to take up employment, the full cost of transporting any personal possesions to Singapore, all your salary whilst under training, all your allowances whilst under training, need I go on. This and much more is required to justify the huge bond.
 
Old 16th May 2001, 10:14
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Just to add in a pointer. Line Training Flights are conducted on revenue paying flights...
 
Old 20th May 2001, 10:24
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For all interested parties:

ALPAS Newsflash, 17 May 2001

“The Association has initialled the Memorandum of Agreement (MOA) for the Pilots’ Collective Agreement with the Company on the 17 May 2001. This is a precursor to the actual signing of the new agreement, which is tentatively planned for 28 May 2001.05.19

The commencement date of the Collective Agreement is 15 December 2000 and expires on the 14 December 2003 with terms and conditions being that of the in-principle agreement the Association had with the Company on the 14 December 2000.

The Association has received a Letter of Understanding from the Company pertaining to the other outstanding issues, which include annual leave backlog, roving LIP and First Officer pay scale.

The President and the Executive Council wishes to thank all members for their staunch support and encouragement throughout this long and trying episode of the negotiations.”
 
Old 20th May 2001, 13:17
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So, there is a very good news, indeed!?
 
Old 20th May 2001, 20:57
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pls explain re new joiners
Thanks
 
Old 20th May 2001, 21:13
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Fire Wall New Pay Scales which you will now see advertised in Flight International week after week ad infinitum!
 
Old 4th Jun 2001, 08:23
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Was I dreaming or has there been an agreement signed between ALPA-S and SIA on 28 May 2001, whereby the new CA is dated from 15 Dec 2000 and back pay is calculated from 21 Nov 1998?
Maybe it did all happen during a REM part of my sleep. If it didn't, does anyone know what's happening as it's all gone quite where I'm sitting?
 
Old 7th Jun 2001, 08:15
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High Cirrus. No you were not dreaming. CA was signed and sealed as you rightly reported. The reason you have not heard much about this is because the SQ pilots are feeling somewhat humiliated having rejected the companys offer in Jan albeit after large freelow of beer made the troops a little mutinous and I think the locals whilst well aware that in Singapore they have no chance of beating the system wanted nevertheless to show some kind of message to the management.
In true SIA fashion it was not long before the usual threats and bullying tactics started coming to the fore. It was suggested that if the matter was sent to the Arbitration Court which all along seemed not to want to get involved then any award would only be back dated to 6 months rather than the almost 2/1/2 years owed. This was enough to start a mad scramble to accept the original offer so overwhelmingly rejected in Jan.
Hence the reason all has gone quiet on this subject.
 
Old 7th Jun 2001, 15:44
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gypsy

Thanks for your note. Do you know when SIA will actually cough up?

Regards cirrus
 
Old 8th Jun 2001, 01:57
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Will this increase affect the SIA Mauritius contracts? Or are they not included?

Regards
 
Old 9th Jun 2001, 07:21
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Highcirrus We all assume back pay will be in Junes salary but in true SIA fashion noone has the manners to keep us informed!

Check 6 It does not affect SIA Mauritius as they get paid whatever SIA think they can get away with and there is no pretence of negotiations as is the case in the mainline.
 
Old 9th Jun 2001, 22:29
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Thanks "gypsy", best of luck to all of you at SQ.

Regards.
 
Old 10th Jun 2001, 12:08
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I heard it is coming in two lumps, one in June and the other in July.
 
Old 7th Jul 2001, 07:13
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Looks like you SIA guys are in for another round of aggravation from the SIA management, this time over the bonus payments which they now seem to be welshing on - as they usually do with anything that is apparently agreed between themselves and ALPA-S but which events subsequent show to have been forged in bad faith by themselves.

Will the CEO's bonus in respect of last year's execellent company performance, towards which the pilots made a major contribution , now be under similar threat and be subject to the same extended payment delay or is it banked in full already?
 
Old 7th Jul 2001, 12:37
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Do you include the three pilots of the infamous SQ6 as contributing their fair share to the SIA bottom line? Whatever happened to my disclosure that ALPA-S was to "ask" its members to contribute some of their bonus to the families of the SQ6 tragedy? Seems that the Singaporean avaricious nature persists, even in time of genuine sorrow and loss of their compatriots. It would at least have been the decent thing to do.
 

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