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Old 30th Jun 2009, 07:18
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Difficult approach?

Now we are getting curious for the approach and terrain. Anyone an approachplate?


BTW:
Don't forget to consider operating environment.
Well said!
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Moroni charts

See the charts here
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Old 30th Jun 2009, 07:28
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Anyone know the Registration Mark of the A310 ??
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Old 30th Jun 2009, 07:32
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7O-ADJ, if anyone cares.
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Old 30th Jun 2009, 07:35
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ok

we have a tough airport, tough weather...stuff happens.
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The airfield charts are posted over in the Middle East forum.
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Old 30th Jun 2009, 07:48
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Airliners.net show 2 A310's for Yemenia - F-OHPR and F-OHPS.
It appears the flight was on approach to 20 from the position of the wreckage that has been found.
I once flew the jump seat for the approach and landing to 02. I won't say which airline but it was pre Dubya paranoia. As I recall we turned final at 3,000' with some higher ground at our 4 o'clock. I don't remember it being particularly bumpy on the approach. It was late afternoon and good weather.

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Old 30th Jun 2009, 07:52
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Moroni + Night + WX + ???????

This isn't a place for the fainthearted.

I have seen many white faces after the first visit a night with a little WX to contend with.

Luckily no other traffic to contend with so ATC not a problem.

A serious black hole approach at night.

Glad not to be flying there anymore.
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Old 30th Jun 2009, 07:52
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I did a check there and a couple of more flights about 3 years ago... During the day it didn't look so bad, but at night, with this kind of wind... Not my fav spot
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Associated Press


Quotes from Transport Minister Dominique Bussereau
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"Two ships have left nearby Réunion Island, and a medivac Transall aircraft."
"We'll also have other means out of Maytoote, near the Comores."
"(The information) is still a bit vague. There's talk of an approach, an abort and a second approach that failed. Right now, you have to be cautious until all this information has been checked."
"(France) will take part in the investigation if French citizens are aboard."
"(Yemenia Air) is not on the black list otherwise it would never have been authorized to take off from Roissy."
"(The A310) is one of the most well-known and most used aircraft in the world."
"Right now, we're still sad one month later about the accident on June 1st."

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Le ministre des Transports Dominique Bussereau a annoncé mardi que des moyens français étaient mis en oeuvre, après l'accident de l'Airbus A310 de la compagnie nationale Yemenia Air au large des Comores dans la nuit de lundi à mardi.

"Deux navires sont partis de la Réunion proche, et un (avion) Transall médicalisé", a déclaré le ministre sur Europe-1. "On va voir également les moyens disponibles à Mayotte, à proximité immédiate des Comores".

Interrogé sur les mauvaises conditions météorologiques sur le lieu de l'atterrissage, "pour l'instant c'est encore un peu flou", a répondu le ministre. "On parle d'une approche, d'une remise de gaz, puis d'une approche nouvelle qui aurait été ratée. Pour l'instant il faut être prudent tant que toutes ces informations ne sont pas vérifiées".

La France sera "associée à l'enquête s'il y a des compatriotes à bord", a-t-il ajouté.

La compagnie Yemenia Air "n'est pas sur la liste noire sinon elle n'aurait pas eu l'autorisation de partir de Roissy", a-t-il poursuivi, précisant que l'Airbus A310 "est un des avions les plus connus dans le monde et les plus utilisés".

"Pour l'instant on est surtout dans la tristesse un mois après l'accident du 1er juin" du vol AF447 d'Air France, a conclu M. Bussereau. AP

Link:
Accident d'avion au large des Comores: des moyens français mis en oeuvre, annonce Bussereau - Yahoo! Actualités
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Old 30th Jun 2009, 09:00
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Summary of Airbus statement/AP

Airbus says it was an A310-300 first delivered in 1990 and had been in service with Yemenia since October 1999. Mfr's serial number was 535 and registered as 70-ADJ.
It had 51,900 flight hours spread across 17,300 flights.

The first A310-300 entered service in December 1985. As at May 31, 2009, 41 airlines operate a total of 214 A310s. The total A310 fleet has logged 11.7 million flight hours during 4.5 million flights.

Link: Crash au large des Comores: l'Airbus A310-300 était en service à la Yemenia Air depuis octobre 1999 - Yahoo! Actualités (in French)
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Old 30th Jun 2009, 09:13
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1 survivor pulled from ocean

Sky news have just reported that 1 survivor of the A310 crash has been pulled from the ocean.

Any other reports on this?
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Old 30th Jun 2009, 09:16
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FROM : AIRBUS FLIGHT SAFETY DEPARTMENT TOULOUSE
ACCIDENT INFORMATION TELEX - ACCIDENT INFORMATION TELEX
Subject: A310-300 IY626 accident
Our ref.: IY626 AIT n°1 dated 30 June 2009
Airbus regrets to confirm that an A310-300 operated by Yemenia
(Yemen Airways) was involved in an accident at about 2250 UTC
(0150 local time) while approaching to Moroni, Comoro Islands.
The aircraft was operating a scheduled service, flight number
IY626, from Sana'a (Yemen) to Moroni (Comoro Islands).
According to available information there were 142 passengers
and 11 crew members on-board. There is no information about
survivors.
The aircraft involved in the accident, registration number 70-
ADJ was MSN (Manufacturer Serial Number) 535. It was first delivered
from the production line in 1990 and has been operated by
Yemenia Airways since October 1999. The aircraft had
accumulated approximately 51,900 flight hours in some 17,300
flights. It was powered by Pratt and Whitney engines PW4152.
At this time no further factual information is available.
In line with the ICAO Annex 13 international convention,
Airbus will provide full technical assistance to the French
BEA and to the Authorities who will be responsible for the
accident investigation. A team of investigators from Airbus is
being dispatched to the Comoro Islands.
The concerns and sympathy of Airbus go to the families,
friends and loved ones affected by the accident.
Further update will be provided as soon as reliable
information is available and Airbus is authorised to release
it.
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Old 30th Jun 2009, 09:21
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Originally Posted by EDLB
CFIT into the ocean??? Its usually at a known altitude.
If you really think that, you need to look outside your immediate comfort zone more often.
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"(The information) is still a bit vague. There's talk of an approach, an abort and a second approach that failed. Right now, you have to be cautious until all this information has been checked."
If this does turn out to be correct then I wonder if there might be similarities to the Gulf Air A320 loss at Bahrain in August 2000? I'm not suggesting that anything other than a proper go around procedure was followed here but turning away from land towards the ocean in poor visibility with no visual reference points might have lead to spatial disorientation.

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Old 30th Jun 2009, 09:37
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French junior transport minister again

Funny, having read his quote earlier, to see this:

Paris - Airbus officials in France reported on Tuesday that the Airbus A310 that crashed near the Comoros Islands on Tuesday was 19 years old and had been in service with Yemenia since 1999. It had logged almost 52,000 flight hours and about 17,300 flights. French Junior Minister for Transport Dominique Bussereau told i- tele TV news that French civil aviation authorities had kept Yemenia Airways under close surveillance and had detected "very many defects" on the aircraft. The plane "disappeared from French skies" after these defects were found," Bussereau said."

Politics, anyone? Or poor translation/editing?
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Old 30th Jun 2009, 10:06
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Politics, anyone? Or poor translation/editing?
Or factual actually?
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Old 30th Jun 2009, 10:11
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Pjlot, have seen survivor reported as a child, will edit in a minute for link, have closed the window...

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Old 30th Jun 2009, 10:12
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Vol IY 626 du 30 juin 2009

A310-300, immatriculé 70-ADJ



Communiqué de presse diffusé le 30 juin 2009 :



Accident survenu au cours de l’approche de l’aérodrome de Moroni (Comores) dans la nuit du 29 au 30 juin.
Le BEA a été informé qu’un Airbus A310-300, immatriculé 70-ADJ, exploité par la compagnie Yemenia, vol IY626, assurant la liaison Sanaa (Yemen) – Moroni (Comores) s’est abîmé en mer au cours de son approche de l’aérodrome de Moroni (Comores) à 1 h 50, heure locale.
Le BEA envoie une équipe d’enquêteurs accompagnée de spécialistes d’Airbus.


"Flight IY 626 of June 30, 2009 A310-300, registered 70-ADJ
Press release diffused on June 30, 2009:
Accident which has occurred during the approach of the aerodrome of Moroni (the Comoro Island) in the night of the 29 at June 30.
The BEA was informed that a A310-300 Airbus, registered 70-ADJ, operated by Yemenia Airways, flight IY626, ensuring the connection Sanaa (Yemen) - Moroni (the Comoro Island) was damaged at sea during its approach of the aerodrome of Moroni (the Comoros) at 1:50, local time. The BEA sends a team of investigators accompanied by Airbus specialists."

It is now reported by French media that a child would have survived to the accident
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Old 30th Jun 2009, 10:15
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Flew from Sanna to Asmara on Yemeni A310, on the flightdeck. Enough said. Whatever happened here very sad.
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