Easyjet applies for Heathrow Belfast service
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Easyjet applies for Heathrow Belfast service
Press release from easyland
easyJet today applied for take-off and landing slots at Heathrow for six daily services to Belfast International.
British Airways announced last week that it is to withdraw its London (Heathrow) to Belfast route and bmi British Midland has switched its Heathrow services to Belfast City airport (from Belfast International). This means that from 29 October, there will be no direct service from Heathrow to Belfast International Airport.
easyJet has written to the slot co-ordinator for London Heathrow Airport asking for the take-off and landing slots that BA has vacated.
easyJet is ready and willing to pick-up the slots and fly the route in tandem with its five-daily Luton - Belfast International service.
Ray Webster, easyJet Chief Executive, said:
"Passengers wishing to fly between Heathrow and Belfast should not be inconvenienced just because British Airways is in trouble. If BA cannot make the route work, it should hand over the slots to an airline that can."
easyJet today applied for take-off and landing slots at Heathrow for six daily services to Belfast International.
British Airways announced last week that it is to withdraw its London (Heathrow) to Belfast route and bmi British Midland has switched its Heathrow services to Belfast City airport (from Belfast International). This means that from 29 October, there will be no direct service from Heathrow to Belfast International Airport.
easyJet has written to the slot co-ordinator for London Heathrow Airport asking for the take-off and landing slots that BA has vacated.
easyJet is ready and willing to pick-up the slots and fly the route in tandem with its five-daily Luton - Belfast International service.
Ray Webster, easyJet Chief Executive, said:
"Passengers wishing to fly between Heathrow and Belfast should not be inconvenienced just because British Airways is in trouble. If BA cannot make the route work, it should hand over the slots to an airline that can."
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Too right !
Trust old Nana 'stelios Mouskouri to jump on this bandwagon, would like to see the revenue generated//landing fees ++.
Can't wait to see the advertising campaign for this one . . .
Trust old Nana 'stelios Mouskouri to jump on this bandwagon, would like to see the revenue generated//landing fees ++.
Can't wait to see the advertising campaign for this one . . .
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Good for EZY! Even with LHR fees, I'll bet that they can still operate a service cheaper than BA.
Fares won't be as cheap as other EZY routes, but if they think that the market can stand their price vs. service ethos on this route, then let them try.
Heard recently that BA wanted a rule change to protect all the LHR/LGW slots that they are currently unable, (or UNWILLING to fly in the current climate) - I think that they have a bloody cheek!
Everyone knows that the terrible events last month are being used, in some measure, as an excuse to cut services to a level below that which is required by the recent downturn in passenger figures. I'm sure this will become clear when services eventually return to normal, and people realise that "overcapacity" in the industry has more or less disappeared.
I think slots should be available to those airlines prepared to take a chance, those airlines willing to minimise disruption to passengers, (and I'm sure most passengers would agree with this).
Why not let them try? After all, "The proof of the pudding......"
PS. I'm not employed by either company named in this reply!
Fares won't be as cheap as other EZY routes, but if they think that the market can stand their price vs. service ethos on this route, then let them try.
Heard recently that BA wanted a rule change to protect all the LHR/LGW slots that they are currently unable, (or UNWILLING to fly in the current climate) - I think that they have a bloody cheek!
Everyone knows that the terrible events last month are being used, in some measure, as an excuse to cut services to a level below that which is required by the recent downturn in passenger figures. I'm sure this will become clear when services eventually return to normal, and people realise that "overcapacity" in the industry has more or less disappeared.
I think slots should be available to those airlines prepared to take a chance, those airlines willing to minimise disruption to passengers, (and I'm sure most passengers would agree with this).
Why not let them try? After all, "The proof of the pudding......"
PS. I'm not employed by either company named in this reply!
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Err, correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it TBI that owns Belfast International and not the BAA as suggested above?? This being the case isn't this the same TBI that owns LTN and has recently agreed a new scale of charges with it's largest customer, which happens to be EZJ ???
But all of the above is oflittle matter because he won't get the slots.
But all of the above is oflittle matter because he won't get the slots.
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Why is that f@ tw@ Stelios so obsessed with this route to Belfast ? What is he trying to prove ? He has one great advantage over BA, though. He can probably make this route pay, despite the high landing fees at LHR, by asking his easySh*t flight crews to clean the cabin and the toilets on the way out, thus saving the cost of cleaners. Could work, couldn't it ? Believe it or not, those muppets would do it as well otherwise they would have never passed these easySh*t psychometric tests !!!! I bet you guys wondered what these silly questions were all about !? Ever wondered why Stelios is overweight ? He regularly eats at McDonalds. For those of you who don't, it's a place where the restaurant manager is expected to sweep up fries and clean the toilets (to lead by example!). Now you know where Stelios got his marvellous ideas !!!
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Charterguy, are you suggesting that cabin crew shouldn't help clean the aeroplane during a quick turnaround? - most do by the way. If so, do you think cabin crew normally undergo psychometric testing? If not, I can only asume that you feel EZY flightdeck feel obligated to assist in cleaning duties. Umm -don't think so!
Don't most "Majors" now employ similar tests? Surely we as pilots are not being assessed on our ability to "muck in" as cleaners? I don't see you berating BA or VS and their testing. What is your problem with EZY?
Don't most "Majors" now employ similar tests? Surely we as pilots are not being assessed on our ability to "muck in" as cleaners? I don't see you berating BA or VS and their testing. What is your problem with EZY?
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Charterguy -
Hmm - so you fly PA-41s and know all about EZY pschcometric tests, yet violently slag off the airline, its boss, AND it's crews ! Very professional.
Failed to get a job here did you by any chance ?
Morons like you make me vomit !
Hmm - so you fly PA-41s and know all about EZY pschcometric tests, yet violently slag off the airline, its boss, AND it's crews ! Very professional.
Failed to get a job here did you by any chance ?
Morons like you make me vomit !
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I dont work for easyJet,but we often go down the back and help out the cabin staff, clean or security check and make the tea,I dont think this is beneath me we make the slots!!
get REAL
I dont work for easyJet,but we often go down the back and help out the cabin staff, clean or security check and make the tea,I dont think this is beneath me we make the slots!!
get REAL
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Good luck to EasyJet on the LHR-BFS route. But has he done his homework before shooting this mouth off this time?
So who at LHR will be his handling agents?
BA, bmi, Swissport, Aer Lingus?
Has he looked at the type of passenger market he will be gaining at LHR?
EasyJet say they are a point to point airline. So those pax finishing their journey in either London or Belfast no problem. BUT most domestic flights carry connecting paxs interlinig with other carriers, BFS is no exception. As most of these paxs will purchase tickets via Travel agents, or business travel agents who EasyJet do not deal with. Paxs using this service (if it operates) will have to reclam baggage and check in again at LHR to continue their jouney. So fares on the route could go up, as no interlining deals, and paxs who use BA from BFS to SYD say will not be getting the BFS-LHR leg subsidised ie sometimes free or £40.(as in BA Worldwide holiday brochure for example). Journey times extended, late paxs arriving for flights, etc...Most paxs have no real idea how much time they need for connecting flight so of course they will leave the min. or no time, if left to book themselves between 2 airlines.
I can help but feel this is another "Mr Blair will be using EasyJet this summer ad" NOT!
Having a look at there website under news he just can not help himself. Cashing in on Swisair paxs offering them flights for £20.
If he is doing so well should he not pay back the government payment for insurance on this aircraft? He takes the hand out when he needs it, and bleats when others need help over other issues. If Stellios starts operating the BFS-LHR route he will have to stop rubbing up the majors the wrong way as it will be the paxs that will will suffer.
Best bet. Use bmi if you are interlining.
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So who at LHR will be his handling agents?
BA, bmi, Swissport, Aer Lingus?
Has he looked at the type of passenger market he will be gaining at LHR?
EasyJet say they are a point to point airline. So those pax finishing their journey in either London or Belfast no problem. BUT most domestic flights carry connecting paxs interlinig with other carriers, BFS is no exception. As most of these paxs will purchase tickets via Travel agents, or business travel agents who EasyJet do not deal with. Paxs using this service (if it operates) will have to reclam baggage and check in again at LHR to continue their jouney. So fares on the route could go up, as no interlining deals, and paxs who use BA from BFS to SYD say will not be getting the BFS-LHR leg subsidised ie sometimes free or £40.(as in BA Worldwide holiday brochure for example). Journey times extended, late paxs arriving for flights, etc...Most paxs have no real idea how much time they need for connecting flight so of course they will leave the min. or no time, if left to book themselves between 2 airlines.
I can help but feel this is another "Mr Blair will be using EasyJet this summer ad" NOT!
Having a look at there website under news he just can not help himself. Cashing in on Swisair paxs offering them flights for £20.
If he is doing so well should he not pay back the government payment for insurance on this aircraft? He takes the hand out when he needs it, and bleats when others need help over other issues. If Stellios starts operating the BFS-LHR route he will have to stop rubbing up the majors the wrong way as it will be the paxs that will will suffer.
Best bet. Use bmi if you are interlining.
Beware of the "Orange Grim Reaper"
[ 04 October 2001: Message edited by: euroboy ]
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SwedeBasher - I was referring to LHR which unless I'm very much mistaken still belongs to the BAA! I understand that TBI has given them a 'corporate' deal for their various airports. Next stop - easyLeeks at CWL? 
Charterguy - hate to jump on the bandwagon, but I'm sure that you'll see your own employer also requiring you to clean your aircraft in an effort to cut costs in the not too distant future. Nothing wrong with that!
euroboy - you're spot on with that assessment; which is (apparently) partly to blame for BA pulling off the route as with interline pax only £1 is assumed as revenue for the domestic flight. This then makes those flights appear to be uneconomic. Handling at LHR - as well as the landing and other airport charges - is astronomical.
WN and FR have been highly successful by sticking to their formula. It seems to me that EZY may be about to 'do a Debonair' and go off the rails somewhat.
Charterguy - hate to jump on the bandwagon, but I'm sure that you'll see your own employer also requiring you to clean your aircraft in an effort to cut costs in the not too distant future. Nothing wrong with that!
euroboy - you're spot on with that assessment; which is (apparently) partly to blame for BA pulling off the route as with interline pax only £1 is assumed as revenue for the domestic flight. This then makes those flights appear to be uneconomic. Handling at LHR - as well as the landing and other airport charges - is astronomical.
WN and FR have been highly successful by sticking to their formula. It seems to me that EZY may be about to 'do a Debonair' and go off the rails somewhat.
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I'm sure EZY will do it.
Although we're a charter operator we use LHR regularly and the slot situation at present is great (for us). We can get slots at most times of the day, which means that the airlines must be cancelling a whole heap of slots (throughout most hours of the day slots at LHR are oversubscribed, so even if five (for example) slots are cancelled it still doesn't free any up).
If a slot is consistently not operated then the slot is withdrawn and, if available, reissued.
There are many cases where, through the winter season, Navajos, Senecas et al have operated into LHR on a daily basis under an airline callsign - just to keep the slots (although it's also used as a corporate transport then too).
I'm just wondering how they'll be able to afford 75 corporate transport a day!
Although we're a charter operator we use LHR regularly and the slot situation at present is great (for us). We can get slots at most times of the day, which means that the airlines must be cancelling a whole heap of slots (throughout most hours of the day slots at LHR are oversubscribed, so even if five (for example) slots are cancelled it still doesn't free any up).
If a slot is consistently not operated then the slot is withdrawn and, if available, reissued.
There are many cases where, through the winter season, Navajos, Senecas et al have operated into LHR on a daily basis under an airline callsign - just to keep the slots (although it's also used as a corporate transport then too).
I'm just wondering how they'll be able to afford 75 corporate transport a day!
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It's comments like the majority of the ones made above (excluding Gypsy, my friend) that explain why pilots fly aeroplanes and Stelios is at the head of multi-million pound p.a. international airline business.
Wake up and welcome to the world of business!!!
By the way if you EVER call the cabin crew easySh*t in my presence you will know about it!!!!!
Wake up and welcome to the world of business!!!
By the way if you EVER call the cabin crew easySh*t in my presence you will know about it!!!!!
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There's is so little fact in what you have posted it's not worth replying to directly!
However, just in case any 'wannabe' cabin crew out there reading this guy's drivel:
Cleaning the cabin involves putting lose rubbish into a gash bag - and YES some of us on the flight deck go and help as well if there's time (we are a crew after all!)
EZ cabin staff DO NOT CLEAN TOILETS. That's the job of the professional contractors.
Stick to your PA41.......and my deepest condolences to anyone that flies with you
There's is so little fact in what you have posted it's not worth replying to directly!
However, just in case any 'wannabe' cabin crew out there reading this guy's drivel:
Cleaning the cabin involves putting lose rubbish into a gash bag - and YES some of us on the flight deck go and help as well if there's time (we are a crew after all!)
EZ cabin staff DO NOT CLEAN TOILETS. That's the job of the professional contractors.
Stick to your PA41.......and my deepest condolences to anyone that flies with you
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Without going off topic too far, I think it is staggering that neither MOL or stelios realise that 'what goes around comes around' in this industry.
To those losing their livelihood, it is nothing short of sickening to see their likes smuggly relishing the loss of routes and collapse of major airlines.
It is also BAD BUSINESS. Whilst the industry is extremely competitive, to rub your hands with glee at the failure of other commercial ventures IN PUBLIC is nothing short of stupidity. In short it reeks of commercial naivety.
The new and bigger enemies of these people will be biding their time. The airline industry will recover in a short time, people will start travelling again, but no one in the aviation industry will forget the sickening glee expressed by these two companies.
To those losing their livelihood, it is nothing short of sickening to see their likes smuggly relishing the loss of routes and collapse of major airlines.
It is also BAD BUSINESS. Whilst the industry is extremely competitive, to rub your hands with glee at the failure of other commercial ventures IN PUBLIC is nothing short of stupidity. In short it reeks of commercial naivety.
The new and bigger enemies of these people will be biding their time. The airline industry will recover in a short time, people will start travelling again, but no one in the aviation industry will forget the sickening glee expressed by these two companies.
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Amazing isnt it?Anyone criticizing this so-called airline is assumed to be a rejected applicant.This move is decidedly underhand and mercenary in its timing but is not unexpected from such a company.
They might be able to get in through the back-door at places like GVA and AMS but at LHR there is no room for riff-raff like this.
They might be able to get in through the back-door at places like GVA and AMS but at LHR there is no room for riff-raff like this.
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Caulfield !this "riff-raff" seem to be shifting passengers !! more than our so called "national" carrier .Wish they WOULD get into LHR and put the bat back up the ar$e of bmi .Drop the prices and the punters will fly !!
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Oh dear, i just couldn't resist!
I don't understand why so many of you are coming down on EZY.How are they exploiting the current situation?
BA leaving BFS is horrendous for everyone from the poor people who have lost their jobs,to the flying public who have lost lots of choices.
How come the only airlines not to be laying of staff or cancelling services are the low-costers?
Yes,it may be difficult for Joe public to work out how to interline through LHR,but at least EZY may give them that option.Not forgetting that if this does happen,BFS may become an EZY hub,and some of the 200 odd people that BA are making redundant,may be able to find new jobs with EZY,lets forget about snobbery here,this comes down to whether you can afford to pay the mortgage or not!
Good luck to everyone in these horrible,horrible times.
I don't understand why so many of you are coming down on EZY.How are they exploiting the current situation?
BA leaving BFS is horrendous for everyone from the poor people who have lost their jobs,to the flying public who have lost lots of choices.
How come the only airlines not to be laying of staff or cancelling services are the low-costers?
Yes,it may be difficult for Joe public to work out how to interline through LHR,but at least EZY may give them that option.Not forgetting that if this does happen,BFS may become an EZY hub,and some of the 200 odd people that BA are making redundant,may be able to find new jobs with EZY,lets forget about snobbery here,this comes down to whether you can afford to pay the mortgage or not!
Good luck to everyone in these horrible,horrible times.
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Sour grapes I think!!
Peoples memories are short - have we all forgotten the underhand, bully-boy tactics used by BA to try to 'dispose' of Virgin and before that Laker.
Not very nice is it when the shoe is on the other foot.
EASY! EASY! EASY!
Peoples memories are short - have we all forgotten the underhand, bully-boy tactics used by BA to try to 'dispose' of Virgin and before that Laker.
Not very nice is it when the shoe is on the other foot.
EASY! EASY! EASY!