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Old 1st May 2009, 16:29
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There was an old story of a B747 that lost and engine on departure out of Heathrow and immediately began dumping. ATC then told the B747 that the "lady was in residence in Windsor" and that he shouldn't be dumping so low.

The captain replied along the lines of, "tell the little old lady that she can have it slowly as it is, or get the whole damn lot with the aeroplane", to which there were no further comments!
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Old 1st May 2009, 17:47
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TyroPicard:

In answer to your query about min alt for 777 fuel dumping; I can only speak for a UK based employer who have had 777s for 13yrs. For the first 11 or so of these years there was indeed a min alt of 6000' required in the QRH. However, a couple of years ago (something like that) this was removed to come into line with the standard Boeing procedure for 777s.

On a personal view I think it would still be prudent to climb to these sort of levels if possible.
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Old 6th May 2009, 06:18
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Washington State may fine Asian Air for low level fuel dump

SEATTLE -- The Washington Ecology Department may fine Asiana Airlines for a plane's dumping fuel over Puget Sound before an emergency landing at Sea-Tac Airport.
Spokesman Curt Hart in Olympia said some of the jet fuel reached the water last Wednesday. A sheen was spotted between Vashon and Bainbridge islands.
Hart said the state action will depend on the investigation by the Federal Aviation Administration and National Transportation Safety Board. He says the state does not want to discourage necessary emergency actions. Fuel usually evaporates in the air.
The Boeing 777 with 192 people on board landed safely. Sea-Tac spokeswoman Terri-Ann Betancourt says preliminary indications are a compressor stall caused the engine problem.

courtesy of: State May Fine Airline For Dumping Fuel - Seattle News Story - KIRO Seattle
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Old 7th May 2009, 23:08
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The Washington Ecology Department may fine Asiana Airlines for a plane's dumping fuel over Puget Sound before an emergency landing at Sea-Tac Airport.
Under what statute ? If they complied with FAA rules and ATC advice, is that defenc(s)e enough ?
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Old 8th May 2009, 01:38
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Under what statute ? If they complied with FAA rules and ATC advice, is that defenc(s)e enough
I doubt that the FAA or ATC issue any specification in this regard, preferring to remain silent and let the captain exercise a reasonable decision.

This is quite a subjective road that they are pointing at and likely just posturing to satisfy the greenies
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Old 8th May 2009, 01:44
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Agree that a criminal statute may be lacking, but the bottom line is that a carrier fouled the sea. A "fine", or recovered costs to clean would be appropriate, no punishment certainly, but someone must pay. The insuror ultimately, one would think.
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Old 8th May 2009, 02:16
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State won't fine airline for fuel dumped in emergency landing

According to the Seattle Times The Washington Department of Ecology says Asiana Airlines is off the hook for spilling fuel from one of its jets over Puget Sound after the plane experienced engine problems and had to make an emergency landing at Seattle-Tacoma International Airport last week.

Local News | State won't fine airline for fuel dumped in emergency landing | Seattle Times Newspaper
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A "fine", or recovered costs to clean would be appropriate, no punishment certainly, but someone must pay.
There wasn't enough to "clean".
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