Jade Cargo Runway Excursion ICN 33R
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Jade Cargo Runway Excursion ICN 33R
Any news on the runway excursion to the left hand side of the runway onto the grass arround the 6000 ft mark by the B744-F .
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From the horses mouth
Finally some feed back on this one.
After landing reverse was selected on all 4 engines.No big beal there.
Nos 1,2,3 ENGINES went into reverse,(green)NO 4 DID NOT.Capt attempted to recycle no 4 engine,instead accidently hit TOGA.The rest is history.a/c fully left the runway.The a/c is still in Seoul.
Am told a serious amount of damage on all 4 engine.etc
After landing reverse was selected on all 4 engines.No big beal there.
Nos 1,2,3 ENGINES went into reverse,(green)NO 4 DID NOT.Capt attempted to recycle no 4 engine,instead accidently hit TOGA.The rest is history.a/c fully left the runway.The a/c is still in Seoul.
Am told a serious amount of damage on all 4 engine.etc
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Plane finished on the grass, pointing 90 deg off runway heading with No.4 at take off power which wasn't noticed by the pilot. No.4 engine stuffed, 3,2,1 semi-stuffed. Investigation on-going.
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The autothrottle is inhibit on the engines with reversers activated, but no.4 wasnt even activated from what i read
Careful how you phrase it NSEU, otherwise the media will insist that all Boeings are grounded until the problem is identified!
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The point here gentlemen and or ladies is that you dont PULL reverse thrust untill all reversers are unlocked.
I didnt mean to have a slanging match with the boffin heads over this one,however.
In my manual it says( and i dont know wether the auto pilot was engaged or not in this case)
QUOTE. UNDER THE ROLLOUT section.:
During rollout ,autothrotttle IDLE mode remains active UNTIL the autothrottle disconnects with the THRUST LEVERS in reverse.
NOTE. Ten seconds after reverse thrust levers are DOWN (it doesnt say all 4)
autothrottle is ARMED until flaps are up. Pushing...A ...(IE ONE) toga switch while the autothrottle is armed activates the autothrottle in THR REF MODE.
Chew on that one
I didnt mean to have a slanging match with the boffin heads over this one,however.
In my manual it says( and i dont know wether the auto pilot was engaged or not in this case)
QUOTE. UNDER THE ROLLOUT section.:
During rollout ,autothrotttle IDLE mode remains active UNTIL the autothrottle disconnects with the THRUST LEVERS in reverse.
NOTE. Ten seconds after reverse thrust levers are DOWN (it doesnt say all 4)
autothrottle is ARMED until flaps are up. Pushing...A ...(IE ONE) toga switch while the autothrottle is armed activates the autothrottle in THR REF MODE.
Chew on that one
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NOTE. Ten seconds after reverse thrust levers are DOWN (it doesnt say all 4)
Why would Boeing design an aircraft to go into takeoff mode with any lever in reverse?
Rgds.
NSEU.
