BMI-The New Low Cost,No-Frills Airline
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Unwell,
Er..... No. Not that it's any big deal, as it was just a bit of gentle ribbing, as I think I know Stag.
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Er..... No. Not that it's any big deal, as it was just a bit of gentle ribbing, as I think I know Stag.
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Whether you are part of on alliance or another is in no way related to commercial survical or prosperity. BA have made the case that flying as a regional airline is unprofitable. BMI only have princibly domestic/eu routes. They would make a usefull partner to BA, bearing in mind that they do not compete on any of BA's profitable routes. I think it could prove a very interesting exersice. BMI already provide the service to VS's, Iceland and Gulf Air. I am not saying that BMI customers would earn milage on BA flights, but BA clients would earn milage on BMI flights, allowing BA to strenghten its Long-Haul network.
Of cause I would be just as happy to see BA go out of business, but thats for entirely different reasons.
Up the Virgins
Of cause I would be just as happy to see BA go out of business, but thats for entirely different reasons.
Up the Virgins
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erm, why would anyone possibly want to see our national flag carrier go out of business??? We would all suffer (indirectly, maybe) if BA went down, and given the current state of our industry it is, I feel, an entirely inappropriate comment.
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V50 is just another piece of SLF, flying in those high yield seats, who grew tired of BA expoiting its dominant position at LHR and rather like the look of the VS cabin crew.
Up the grinning jumper, down with the civil service.
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So by definition, making pilots work for more than 75 flying hours per month qualifies you for the title "no-frills airline."
As a First Officer with BA, I'm pleasantly surprised that my 75-85 hours average per month qualify me to stand proud next to Easy Jet and Ryanair pilots.
That's short haul BTW....
As a First Officer with BA, I'm pleasantly surprised that my 75-85 hours average per month qualify me to stand proud next to Easy Jet and Ryanair pilots.
That's short haul BTW....
Glasgow's Gallus Gigolo .... PPRuNeing is like making love to a beautiful woman ... I take hours.
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It's worth remembering that, in the UK at least, if you average more than 75 hours per month, you will exceed the legal maximum for the year of 900. Ok, so more than 75 will probably be ok, as you'll have leave for some of the year (for the moment, at least!) but that doesn't leave a lot of flex in the system for stadnby cover, adhoc flights, etc...
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BMI pay poorly and make you work hard already, don't they? So if they want to create a low fares type airline you should all be in for a pay rise. They will expect more flexibility out of you to justify that pay rise of course. Apart from paying the mortgage why do you guys work for Midland, I really don't understand your logic. Low fares airlines pay more, have just as good job security and no BS from management. You know where you stand. All the Midland guys I have seen coming through our front door have chickened out in the end. Smell the coffee.
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Most folks would agree that 75 -80 hours flying per month is an absolute bargain; we'd all have that if we could, it's the duty hours that go along with that which really spoil the pie.
If, to get that sort of flt time, you are doing say, 20 long sectors with minimal messing around with a stable roster it isnt anywhere nearly as fatiguing as 80 or 90 short sectors and all the messing around that goes with that.
Equally, if you are spending a great deal of time shuttling around either as a pax or in a taxi, or hanging about waiting to fly between sectors or a positioner it all adds to the pain factor.
The managers need to examine their performances and look at ways of reducing watse as a first run at optimising productivity.
Also if you want to cut the cost base why not trim the back office staff rather than the front line; sounds just like what the military did. Get rid of the frontline but keep the blanket stackers and bean counters.
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[ 19 November 2001: Message edited by: PaulDeGearup ]
If, to get that sort of flt time, you are doing say, 20 long sectors with minimal messing around with a stable roster it isnt anywhere nearly as fatiguing as 80 or 90 short sectors and all the messing around that goes with that.
Equally, if you are spending a great deal of time shuttling around either as a pax or in a taxi, or hanging about waiting to fly between sectors or a positioner it all adds to the pain factor.
The managers need to examine their performances and look at ways of reducing watse as a first run at optimising productivity.
Also if you want to cut the cost base why not trim the back office staff rather than the front line; sounds just like what the military did. Get rid of the frontline but keep the blanket stackers and bean counters.
Puts soapbox away.
[ 19 November 2001: Message edited by: PaulDeGearup ]
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Glamgran
Really sorry about that.
Does this mean you'll be too poor to buy 'The Big Issue' from the 109 who are taking a 100% pay cut. (Not forgetting the 55 taking a 33% hit)
'First take the plank out of thine own eye'
Really sorry about that.
Does this mean you'll be too poor to buy 'The Big Issue' from the 109 who are taking a 100% pay cut. (Not forgetting the 55 taking a 33% hit)
'First take the plank out of thine own eye'
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Of course I'll buy a Big Issue off them!
But then I've had a cut in the old housekeeping and what with the price of gin set to rise it won't be on a regular basis. Tescos gin.....YUK!
Still keep smiling as the Old Man is hoping to get early retirement, that's if they ever bother to reply to his letters. Don't know what I'll do with the grumpy old sod under my feet all day.
Back to the sink!
GG
Of course I'll buy a Big Issue off them!
But then I've had a cut in the old housekeeping and what with the price of gin set to rise it won't be on a regular basis. Tescos gin.....YUK!
Still keep smiling as the Old Man is hoping to get early retirement, that's if they ever bother to reply to his letters. Don't know what I'll do with the grumpy old sod under my feet all day.
Back to the sink!
GG
