A320 'severely damaged' at IST
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"NOTE: This accident marks the the 2nd Turbo DC-3 hull loss in Colombia within a day and the 4th hull loss of a DC-3 in 2009.(three of them were Turbo DC-3s)"
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So, can anyone find evidence that an a/c has ever ended on it's tail after applying brakes whilst rolling backwards? Genuinely interested as I have a feeling it's an urban myth...
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No myth I assure you, it has happened to me and many others.
Try and imagine the scenario, you are pushing back and suddenly realise you can see the tug but are still moving, adrenalin kicks in and your very first reaction is to go for the pedals, it takes a very cool head to only apply gentle pressure, every case will be different, depending on a whole lot of variables. It had never happened to me before and never been discussed in training, suddenly the unbelievable happened! We were on a remote stand at LGW with our tail towards a very active taxiway on a Saturday morning.
If you don't mind me saying so 52049er you sound as though you have not been with the 'push-back' end of aviation very long, or not in the LHS, you are very dismissive of the possibility which leads me to think you have never, ever experienced it. When you get the chance ask those who will admit it.
Try and imagine the scenario, you are pushing back and suddenly realise you can see the tug but are still moving, adrenalin kicks in and your very first reaction is to go for the pedals, it takes a very cool head to only apply gentle pressure, every case will be different, depending on a whole lot of variables. It had never happened to me before and never been discussed in training, suddenly the unbelievable happened! We were on a remote stand at LGW with our tail towards a very active taxiway on a Saturday morning.
If you don't mind me saying so 52049er you sound as though you have not been with the 'push-back' end of aviation very long, or not in the LHS, you are very dismissive of the possibility which leads me to think you have never, ever experienced it. When you get the chance ask those who will admit it.
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Depends if you think 10 years is a long time
. As I said earlier in the thread, it's happened to me twice. What I'm looking for is not 'fortunately I applied the brakes gently' stories, but AAIB/NTSB links to 'Aircraft ended on it's tail during pushback'. We all feel it's likely to happen - but is this just 'intuition' or has it actually occurred.
Perhaps looking for empirical evidence is frowned upon?
. As I said earlier in the thread, it's happened to me twice. What I'm looking for is not 'fortunately I applied the brakes gently' stories, but AAIB/NTSB links to 'Aircraft ended on it's tail during pushback'. We all feel it's likely to happen - but is this just 'intuition' or has it actually occurred.Perhaps looking for empirical evidence is frowned upon?
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