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Old 22nd May 2001, 04:33
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Red face staff car park at man

i have heard that staff west car park
is to be used for the PAYING PUBLIC!
as T2 LONG STAY is too small
and that the new staff car park will be
off site ARE YOU READY FOR THE GOOD NEWS!
NEAR THE TRAFFORD CENTRE!!!
and all staff will be brought by the staff
bus (only a rumour but who knows)
 
Old 22nd May 2001, 14:32
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There has been an on-going rumour at MAN for many years that the majority of staff parking will eventually be in 'satellite car parks' as far away as Heald Green and Wythenshawe.

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Old 22nd May 2001, 16:11
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Right now the T3 short stay car park has been closed all morning and everyone going there is being directed to T1 with the result that T1 is virtually full and my staff for whom we pay a lot of money to park in T1 short stay cannot find spaces !

I myself have been out at a meeting and have had to drive around all 13 levels of t1 short stay in order to find a space !

Why is T3 short stay closed ?
 
Old 22nd May 2001, 16:37
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Re staff west,have you been crammed on the bus first thing in a morning,standing room only,with still more people trying to get on?
Take a look at the seating/standing restrictions printed near the driver.If the bus is involved in an accident you may well be uninsured if this number is exceeded.
 
Old 22nd May 2001, 16:48
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Isn't it about time that the issue of staff car paring ant MAN was addressed seriously.

For years airport staff (not just aircrew) have been shuffled from pillar to post while major effort have been made to provide very convenient facilities for 'Joe Public'.

Now befre you all jump down my throat - consider this. The majority of 'Joe Publics' use the airport infrequently, perhaps once a year even, but those that make the airport work are there every working day. Is it not about time that Mr Muirhead and his cronies considered who is assisting him/them to their Knighthoods and OBE's (Other B*****s Efforts)or whatever they are aspiring to?- the airport staff? Mr Muirhead and his executives park their Jags at the door to Olymic House - no satellite parking for them.

Creating 'satellite' staff car parks adds an enormous time factor to an individuals working day. In the case of pilots and other aircrew this has Flight Time Limitations and Flight Safety implications.

Consider the example of a flight deck crew on minimum rest between night flights - on chocks, to the crew room, walk to bus stop, wait for a bus, travel to satellite car park and then drive home. Then reverse the process 10 hours later. Need I say more. All this adds to the ever-present problem of fatigue.

It is about time that the airline operators -who pay the MAN Aiport Authority vast sums to use the ever-sprawling edifice - took a stand on behalf of their employees. It is time aslo that BALPA and the TGWU and Engineers unions got involved and presented a united front to force the airport management to think about the very people that make the place function - and stop treating them like they don't matter.

Perhaps a 'sit-in', by the staff that use the staff car parks, blocking the roads around the airport might focus the minds of the high and mighty on the issue.

Let's not let this issue die.
 
Old 22nd May 2001, 18:59
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There is an imminent BASE CAPTAINS (Pilot Technical Working Group) meeting:

PLEASE petition your Base Captain to bring up the issue at the meeting. We all have to make our opinions known NOW before yet another decision is railroaded.
 
Old 23rd May 2001, 00:49
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The staff parking policies at MAN are riddled with inconsistencies. The T1 MSCP is currently home to the majority of MA PLC office based staff who over the years have obtained the right to park here through calling in favours and knowing the right people. This has recently caused animosity as those individuals with less influence have been moved to Staff West with the resultant increase in journey times.

The car rental companies occupy vast swathes of all three short stay car parks further reducing capacity for crew and pax.

I agree that the show of ostentation represented by the parking spaces of Mr Muirhead and his colleagues outside of Olympic House is entirely representative of the current management style at MA PLC and totally at odds with the flannel given to the R2 inquiry concerning public transport usage.

One can take a small degree of comfort from the fact that come April 2002 those Mercs, BMW's and Jags are going to command a much heftier personal tax liability.
 
Old 23rd May 2001, 04:12
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thanks for all your views,i agree the service
(or lack of it) must be improved.
i asked one of the drivers if the bus would
be more frequent his answer
dont think so, not enough staff they wont
tell us anything!.all staff in the rail station car park that are left will be all
moved to staff west (were ever that may be)
but due to mess it's in at the moment
this has been put on hold
 
Old 23rd May 2001, 08:30
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"Joe Public" pays the bills. Staff have the option of.....taxi, rail, bus....or looking for a parking space. Very simple really.
 
Old 23rd May 2001, 10:50
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411A

You really are a jerk!
 
Old 23rd May 2001, 12:11
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411A - with your apparent attitude it is no wonder that UK workers get trampled on the way we do.

Obviously you either don't work at MAN airport or have no understanding or care for the very real problems faced by peple who work long hours and who report for work at all hours of the day and NIGHT.

Add to the above the matter of vehicle, and more importantly, personal security. You don't need much imagination to see the problems and the concerns of, for example, females having to use remote and isolated car parks - especially inthat area of Manchester - at all hours of the night.

Not only that Mr 411A, many of the airport employees live ong distances from the airport. So it is not a matter of a taxi, bus or a train.



[This message has been edited by FL370 (edited 23 May 2001).]
 
Old 23rd May 2001, 12:22
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They should build a staff only multi storey on the pay & display area between the petrol station and the bus station. But how they could be persuaded to coff up the readies for such a project is another matter altogether. Bright ideas anyone? A petition? Protest march? Perhaps this issue should be brought up at airline board level, or has it?
 
Old 23rd May 2001, 12:44
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411A - your previous postings on this and other topics suggest that you are part of the MAN airport Junta who believe that it is a shopping centre with a runway and if you could make the same amount of money without a runway and no smelly noisy aircraft you would.

Your comments elsewhere about staff using the train show your utter lack of undertsanding of how aircrew work.

Remember, WITHOUT the aircrew, and WITHOUT the airlines, you would have NO PASSENGERS in your beloved joke of an airport!
 
Old 23rd May 2001, 14:00
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Groundcrew100

In reply to your last posting, the aiport have agreed to make the following improvements to Staff West before our company moved the rest of its employees over there:

1. Increase frequency of bus service (every 10 mins. ?)

2. Higher capacity buses to be used - the airport are investing in the stretched 'bendy' buses

3. Better security - more CCTV etc.

4. Sufficient bus shelters to be built in the car-park.

5. Better walkways / pavements to be constructed.

Allegedly, the lack of the last two, currently means Staff West does not comply with Health & Safety requirements.



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Old 23rd May 2001, 16:09
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Yet again the T3 Short Stay is closed with all cars being re-directed to the T1 MSCP. So anyone coming on shift this afternoon has not got a hope in hell of finding a parking space.

 
Old 23rd May 2001, 16:15
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My friend's father works for MIA, and talk is of purchasing land near IKEA Warrington and bussing people in from there..
 
Old 23rd May 2001, 18:51
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If that is true,then the airlines should point out to MAPLC that Liverpool has suddenly got a lot closer to where their staff are parked.Therefore they may as well consider operating out from Liverpool.
Afterall Joe Public will travel from whichever airport his holiday starts from,and that will be designated by the tour operator/carrier.
Lets see how long it would take the car parking problem to be resolved if 2 or 3 main carriers moved ops from Manchester to Liverpool.
(Parking spaces !! I've had bigger lumps of sweetcorn in ma cr@p !!!)
 
Old 23rd May 2001, 21:41
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I am "fortunate" enough to park in T3 on "afternoons" and "nights". The other day, I arrives at 1.30pm to find all ALL the circular system access blocked by "Joe Public". When this was pointed out to MA Plc car park staff, the reply was "Well, If they get hit, it's THEIR fault". What about the poor so and so who comes round a blind bend and finds a big Merc where it shouldn't be?
 
Old 23rd May 2001, 23:45
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Some of you may have noticed that GlobeGround have moved all staff to the Carminder 2 car park just down the road from staff west.

 
Old 24th May 2001, 01:03
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Flight Safety is the only thing that might get some action:
Next time on min rest, file an MOR about this safety hazard.
 


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