Monarch Depressurisation near Malaga
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Monarch Depressurisation near Malaga
A Monarch Airbus had to return to Malaga today after a 'complete loss of pressurisation' approaching FL220 in the climb. No emergency declared, just a request for descent to FL100 and take up the hold at MAR before returning to the field.
All handled very calmly by the crew - hopefully a non-dramatic end to what's basically a non-event.
Just trying to prevent another 'Passenger Jet in Death Plunge' that the media seems so keen on these days.
All handled very calmly by the crew - hopefully a non-dramatic end to what's basically a non-event.
Just trying to prevent another 'Passenger Jet in Death Plunge' that the media seems so keen on these days.
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Yunvi,
It wasn't an explosive decompression where you loose all your pressurization.
In case they had a double pressurization controller fault or a double bleed failure this just means that no new air is entering the cabin. Depending on the failure the outflow vlave will close itself or is closed manually by the flight crew which reduces the loss of pressurization. Certainly from FL220 you can easily descent to below FL140 without the O2 mask deploying.
It wasn't an explosive decompression where you loose all your pressurization.
In case they had a double pressurization controller fault or a double bleed failure this just means that no new air is entering the cabin. Depending on the failure the outflow vlave will close itself or is closed manually by the flight crew which reduces the loss of pressurization. Certainly from FL220 you can easily descent to below FL140 without the O2 mask deploying.
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What we need to know, 1-what is the Ryanair involvement,2 - were there any explorers on board, and 3 -as it wasn't Ryanair cheapo low cost ,I guess no one wants to make accusations of masks failing to drop ( or inflate).Thank God for that, all done and dusted then ?
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Hello,
They decided to come back to AGP this morning in a very calm an professional manner, required to hold over MAR at FL 85, I supposed for a fuel dump, but very shortly, they were ready to continue descend to 5500 ft and completing the ILS Y approach to Malaga, perfect landing (of course) and parking into a remote position on the North platform, everything quite calm and eaaaaaasy after a loose of pressurization
Just congratulations to pilots and controllers for the good job!
They decided to come back to AGP this morning in a very calm an professional manner, required to hold over MAR at FL 85, I supposed for a fuel dump, but very shortly, they were ready to continue descend to 5500 ft and completing the ILS Y approach to Malaga, perfect landing (of course) and parking into a remote position on the North platform, everything quite calm and eaaaaaasy after a loose of pressurization
Just congratulations to pilots and controllers for the good job!
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I do find it amusing when people go "all handled very well by crew calm professional and must be congratulated etc etc".. yes when it was a really tricky situation but does this count as one? All the back slapping but what do real pilots say instead of arm chair jockeys? Was it a - "I would really buy that guy a beer if I saw him in the bar" situation... that is the true judge of an incident 
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Top Marks Crew
Back off experts, (alleged)
There was a problem, the crew performed their actions very professionally as required; result: everyone was safe, no problem
CONCLUSION :-
Top marks crew, a great job professionally performed, end of story, there is no more.
For my part; it always amazes me how many folks have an opionon about what they did, was it right etc, yet, put those same folk in a similar situaion & how would they perform ?
top tip; put yourself in the same position & consider how you would react ?
The reality is that NO ONE knows for sure until you've been there & done that.
Prologue; always consider the reality of such situations & the human factors involved, yes, those human factors courses are not there just for the 2 year cert', they are there for a reason.
Stay safe folks, fly safe, think safe, be safe !
There was a problem, the crew performed their actions very professionally as required; result: everyone was safe, no problem
CONCLUSION :-
Top marks crew, a great job professionally performed, end of story, there is no more.
For my part; it always amazes me how many folks have an opionon about what they did, was it right etc, yet, put those same folk in a similar situaion & how would they perform ?
top tip; put yourself in the same position & consider how you would react ?
The reality is that NO ONE knows for sure until you've been there & done that.
Prologue; always consider the reality of such situations & the human factors involved, yes, those human factors courses are not there just for the 2 year cert', they are there for a reason.
Stay safe folks, fly safe, think safe, be safe !
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Why no pax masks if there was total px loss @ FL220 ?
required to hold over MAR at FL 85, I supposed for a fuel dump
old-timer,
If a UK airline crew could not handle this, a relatively easy scenario, in a professional and calm manner then we are all up the creek. I would suggest that EVERY UK airline pilot would have been absolutely fine in these circumstances. In fact I would have thought that every airline pilot in the world would have been too.