Plane overshoot runway DTM (germany)
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Aircraft went over the runway in EDLW / Dortmund
Hi all,
Friday, 26. Sep.08 - aerodrome EDLW is presently closed.
a 737 size aircraft went over the runway, nosewheel on soft ground.
No further informations yet.
Greetings Flying Bull
Friday, 26. Sep.08 - aerodrome EDLW is presently closed.
a 737 size aircraft went over the runway, nosewheel on soft ground.
No further informations yet.
Greetings Flying Bull
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NouvelAir A321, overshoot by some 10feet, nobody hurt.
Information source (german): psp pro news presse WIEBOLD TVnews GmbH - AIRBUS AUF ABWEGEN
Information source (german): psp pro news presse WIEBOLD TVnews GmbH - AIRBUS AUF ABWEGEN
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Plane overshoot runway DTM (germany)
Just saw a A321 land long at DTM and ended up ont he dirt on lading on RWY06... Came in high touched down about halfway down the runway and the rest you can imagine-.... now its at the 24 (Dirt) end of the runway waiting to be lifted....
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The first article I found yesterday (German, automatic translation):
Dortmund - flame hell of Madrid - the pictures of the flight disaster are only few weeks old. The passengers of the airbus A321 at the Dortmunder airport will have had the same scenario before eyes. Flughafen Dortmund - Airbus schießt über Landebahn hinaus - EXPRESS online - Reisecenter
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The following comes to my mind:
If you overshoot a runway by 10 feet,your speed at the end of the rwy must have been very low.So why not simply try to take it on the last turnoff ???
Anybody familiar with DTM?
If you overshoot a runway by 10 feet,your speed at the end of the rwy must have been very low.So why not simply try to take it on the last turnoff ???
Anybody familiar with DTM?
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the airbus was way to fast to take the turnoff ... from what i saw it tried to brake hard just before the runway ended and ground loop it with a right turn ... DTM is a critical to say the least with RWY 06 in use you only have 1400m from the touch downzone onwards... i don't fly airbuses myself and don't want to sound like an armchair pilot with the benefit of hind sight but it was quite clear the the airbus landed too deep into the runway almost or nearly half of the runway was behind the aircraft of touchdown which would leave 800-600meters or usable dist.... as i said i don't fly the bus but you can be sure there was some sort of excess energy when the nose gear came stuck into the mud as i saw the aircraft come to an abrupt stop. am just glad everyone was able to walk away....
DTM has a massively displaced threshold for such a short runway. I'm surprised tht planes don't aim to touch down at the threshold once safely over concrete rather than go for the normal TDZ which can put you almost half way down.
Not surprising - not aiming to touch down at the threshold
Maintaining a stabilised approach path, avoids hitting any close in obstacles that might be a reason for the displaced threshold.
This also avoids the risk of a heavy landing due to a misjudged flare with an increased descent rate.
If the aircraft crosses the ‘landing’ threshold at 50 ft (within a small margin), lands within the designated normal distance margins (approx 1000ft in), at the correct airspeed, and uses the retarding devices as recommended, then safety should not be degraded and the risk of an overrun minimised.
Unless of course the runway friction is not as anticipated.
Managing threats and errors during approach and landing .
This also avoids the risk of a heavy landing due to a misjudged flare with an increased descent rate.
If the aircraft crosses the ‘landing’ threshold at 50 ft (within a small margin), lands within the designated normal distance margins (approx 1000ft in), at the correct airspeed, and uses the retarding devices as recommended, then safety should not be degraded and the risk of an overrun minimised.
Unless of course the runway friction is not as anticipated.
Managing threats and errors during approach and landing .
