EasyJet Announces Gatwick Expansion
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EasyJet Announces Gatwick Expansion
Today easyJet have announced its much rumoured expansion plans through Gatwick starting in mid February.
Its currently flies to AMS, BCN, GVA and NCE and is planning to add EDI (up to 5 per day), ZRH (2 per day), AGP (2 per day) and PMI (1 per day).
This, they say, will make it the airports second largest scheduled carrier.
Its currently flies to AMS, BCN, GVA and NCE and is planning to add EDI (up to 5 per day), ZRH (2 per day), AGP (2 per day) and PMI (1 per day).
This, they say, will make it the airports second largest scheduled carrier.
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Surprisingly, they didn't bother announcing that their plans for opening a Flight Deck Crew Base at Belfast International had been cancelled!! They cite, as one of the reasons for this, that they ".... will use LGW based Flight Deck Crews to crew some aircraft operating ex-Belfst". I'm sure that gives us all a clue of another route they'll be launching ex-LGW.
Truth of the matter is, easyJet don't meet the minimum standards requirement as an employer for Belfast based crew, the BFS & BHD boys and girls are much too canny a bunch! And "Wodger" at CTC obviously doesn't like people from N.I., either!!!
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Truth of the matter is, easyJet don't meet the minimum standards requirement as an employer for Belfast based crew, the BFS & BHD boys and girls are much too canny a bunch! And "Wodger" at CTC obviously doesn't like people from N.I., either!!!
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Are you saying that easyJet is a low standards employer? I should think easy is a pretty sought after and secure employer judging by the amount of applications recieved recently.
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Well, I didn't think they were all that recently.
Wouldn't go there if I was forced in the door. A nice enough bunch, but for god's sake.....stop the orange nonsense........you are even being bombarded with it in interview!!
I guess they are good for some, but I didn't like the feel of it.
Wouldn't go there if I was forced in the door. A nice enough bunch, but for god's sake.....stop the orange nonsense........you are even being bombarded with it in interview!!
I guess they are good for some, but I didn't like the feel of it.
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Tailscrape - well don't join then because me thinks we probably don't want you either. Saw your post elsewhere about NCL in which you express concern over losing your current job. Have you been for the interview with eJ and been turned down?
Triple IRS - what a load of twoddle. 'the truth of the matter is' that you don't have the first clue. My understanding from reliable internal sources is that we looked at the huge expansion in LGW and saw that as a higher priority than BFS. What are these high standards required in BFS that we don't need in the rest of the UK. Ah -wait a minute have you also been for a Sim check and got rejected. Hard to take was it?
Triple IRS - what a load of twoddle. 'the truth of the matter is' that you don't have the first clue. My understanding from reliable internal sources is that we looked at the huge expansion in LGW and saw that as a higher priority than BFS. What are these high standards required in BFS that we don't need in the rest of the UK. Ah -wait a minute have you also been for a Sim check and got rejected. Hard to take was it?
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Nothing on EJ website as of yet regarding LGW routes.
And why is that certain members of the EJ "team" think that if anyone just dares` says something against the Orange band we are rejects?
Funny as it may seem, we may not want to be Tangoed!
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And why is that certain members of the EJ "team" think that if anyone just dares` says something against the Orange band we are rejects?
Funny as it may seem, we may not want to be Tangoed!
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Gypsy:
In answer to your last two sentences - Wrong, and Wrong!!!
I have friends who have been promised the earth by easyJet in BFS, only to have "The Gospel According to St. Stelios" revised frequently. (I.E. Lied to)
And from what I've heard about their Sim. Assessments from people who have been both successful and unsuccessful, it's a shambles.
Both of the above paragraphs fail to do anything to enthuse both those who have been through the "Orangeland" experience, and those who are considering applying. I fall into the latter category.....or did!
It's not to everyone's liking, especially when people try to ram it down others throats, but you'd know all about that!!
Toodle-Pip!!
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In answer to your last two sentences - Wrong, and Wrong!!!
I have friends who have been promised the earth by easyJet in BFS, only to have "The Gospel According to St. Stelios" revised frequently. (I.E. Lied to)
And from what I've heard about their Sim. Assessments from people who have been both successful and unsuccessful, it's a shambles.
Both of the above paragraphs fail to do anything to enthuse both those who have been through the "Orangeland" experience, and those who are considering applying. I fall into the latter category.....or did!
It's not to everyone's liking, especially when people try to ram it down others throats, but you'd know all about that!!
Toodle-Pip!!
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I'd like to wish EZ every success at Gatwick. It is completely beyond me to understand how BA can fail to make profits at an airport where they hold the majority of the slots.
Somehow I rather expect BA's current strategy - which seems to involve very much downsizing Gatwick if not eliminating it completely - will work against them eventually.
One scenario I can envisage is BA giving up on Gatwick to concentrate on Heathrow, but thereafter losing slots at Heathrow to accommodate new entrants in the name of competition (certainly if the AA deal goes through, possibly even if it doesn't). Either way BA will be a much reduced beast unless it can successfully pull off one merger or another - AA, KLM, whatever. Given that even Sept. 11th and the demise of Swissair and Sabena seem to not to have altered the aeropolitical picture much, banking on a merger to help BA looks far fetched.
So I'm not quite sure what future BA will look like:
- a businessman's airline, but, um, one which may give up all it's European operations? Which makes it...
- a long haul businessman's airline (it doesn't want to fly megajumbos like VS and compete in the mass market). Which suggests...
- it should dissolve itself and buy Blue Fox. That's it! Problem solved. (just kidding)
By the way, I'm not anti BA, they remain my favourite airline to travel with, I just don't feel like paying £500 to go to Zurich for the day...
Somehow I rather expect BA's current strategy - which seems to involve very much downsizing Gatwick if not eliminating it completely - will work against them eventually.
One scenario I can envisage is BA giving up on Gatwick to concentrate on Heathrow, but thereafter losing slots at Heathrow to accommodate new entrants in the name of competition (certainly if the AA deal goes through, possibly even if it doesn't). Either way BA will be a much reduced beast unless it can successfully pull off one merger or another - AA, KLM, whatever. Given that even Sept. 11th and the demise of Swissair and Sabena seem to not to have altered the aeropolitical picture much, banking on a merger to help BA looks far fetched.
So I'm not quite sure what future BA will look like:
- a businessman's airline, but, um, one which may give up all it's European operations? Which makes it...
- a long haul businessman's airline (it doesn't want to fly megajumbos like VS and compete in the mass market). Which suggests...
- it should dissolve itself and buy Blue Fox. That's it! Problem solved. (just kidding)
By the way, I'm not anti BA, they remain my favourite airline to travel with, I just don't feel like paying £500 to go to Zurich for the day...
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I agree good luck to E O G (Easy of Gatwick)at least it will mean Jobs for some of the poor sods that have lost theirs recently, it will also help revive LGW which is like a ghost town even now approaching Christmas.
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Triple IRS - the people you know that think the recruitment sim a shambles etc - can I presume they failed.
I doubt easy 'promised the earth' in BFS but we interviewed people for that base. If successful I would expect those people would be offered jobs elsewhere within the network then when BFS opens they can move there. All depends if you want the job. For the record even before the dreadful events of 911, retention in easy was very high so therefore something must be right. Good retention starts with good recruitment.
Its not a case of jumping to defend easy everytime someone is negative. What gets my goat is schoolyard comments preceded by something like 'the truth is' when the originator clearly doesn't have a clue what the real facts are. These remarks are usually followed by some jibe at the recruitment process which despite the denials tells us lots about the author!
For the people who are interested in BFS I'd be very surprised if it doesn't happen one day
I doubt easy 'promised the earth' in BFS but we interviewed people for that base. If successful I would expect those people would be offered jobs elsewhere within the network then when BFS opens they can move there. All depends if you want the job. For the record even before the dreadful events of 911, retention in easy was very high so therefore something must be right. Good retention starts with good recruitment.
Its not a case of jumping to defend easy everytime someone is negative. What gets my goat is schoolyard comments preceded by something like 'the truth is' when the originator clearly doesn't have a clue what the real facts are. These remarks are usually followed by some jibe at the recruitment process which despite the denials tells us lots about the author!
For the people who are interested in BFS I'd be very surprised if it doesn't happen one day
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I agree with Gypsy.
The simple 'truth' is that easyJet aircraft are a limited resource. The events and fallout from September 11 could not have been foreseen.
Naturally if an unexpected opportunity for expansion presents itself, then Stelios is obviously going to concentrate on the more profitable option until such time as other plans (BFS) can be accommodated.
I understand the comments made by other contributors regarding the situation in NI. Minimum requirements, I believe, relate more to the mix of employees (vis-a-vis the problems in the Province) than the long-term prospects or standards of the airline (correct me if I am wrong!).
Best wishes for the Season.
The simple 'truth' is that easyJet aircraft are a limited resource. The events and fallout from September 11 could not have been foreseen.
Naturally if an unexpected opportunity for expansion presents itself, then Stelios is obviously going to concentrate on the more profitable option until such time as other plans (BFS) can be accommodated.
I understand the comments made by other contributors regarding the situation in NI. Minimum requirements, I believe, relate more to the mix of employees (vis-a-vis the problems in the Province) than the long-term prospects or standards of the airline (correct me if I am wrong!).
Best wishes for the Season.
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well , 'the truth is': EZY, they came, they talked, they wined, they dined, they went back to LUT with 1 F/O. Fair enough. They may find however that the enthusiasm displayed next time they come to town is somewhat tepid. No big deal but just as LGW is of more commercial importance to EZY, NI is more important to its local crew.
You'll always get plenty of takers for a free meal at the Hilton. Won't be quite so easy to get them down to LUT though. Now I'm off to my local pub.
You'll always get plenty of takers for a free meal at the Hilton. Won't be quite so easy to get them down to LUT though. Now I'm off to my local pub.
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LGW expansion, as indicated above, has meant a couple of other areas (primarily BFS) having to be postponed pending new deliveries as the next few aircraft, rather than being allocated to the regions, will head for LGW. Do not, however, assume that growth will not go ahead in the regions as planned!
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This news was hardly unexpected. As soon as BA decided to vacate slots Easyjet were always going to move in, which is why it was an example of idiotic short-termism in the first place.
I'm afraid that this is the start of the end for BA at LGW. As Easyjet build up their presence further BA will retrench further, particularly since BA's policy is invariably to reduce frequency when faced with headon low cost competition,rather than ramping up the frequency and fighting back.
It is interesting to note that they have concentrated thus far at LGW on the franchised or former franchised routes of GB and CityFlyer, presumably because they know that these routes were likely to have been successful ones, otherwise GB and CityFlyer wouldn't fly them.
It does mean one thing. BA will now have to really think through what their response is going to be in the long term, you cannot just continue to back away indefinitely.
I'm afraid that this is the start of the end for BA at LGW. As Easyjet build up their presence further BA will retrench further, particularly since BA's policy is invariably to reduce frequency when faced with headon low cost competition,rather than ramping up the frequency and fighting back.
It is interesting to note that they have concentrated thus far at LGW on the franchised or former franchised routes of GB and CityFlyer, presumably because they know that these routes were likely to have been successful ones, otherwise GB and CityFlyer wouldn't fly them.
It does mean one thing. BA will now have to really think through what their response is going to be in the long term, you cannot just continue to back away indefinitely.
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this is good news for all in the industry as it will mean jobs for lots of people at a time when we need any good news we can get.The most interesting thing is does this mean that ezy are changing their philosophy of being a high utilisation/low cost carrier...LGW is not a place you can do 30 mins turnarounds,I often spend 20 mins taxiing/holding prior dep and a good 10 mins inbound....so how do you keep low cost if you can't get that extra rotation in???? and presumably the baa are'nt giving them a huge discount ????
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Events recently I think have changed easyJets focus from the plans prior to September.
The opportunities to create major new bases at Paris and Gatwick have put the plans for Liverpool, Belfast, Edinburgh and Glasgow on the back burner slightly for the time being.
Maybe if they can acquire new/nearly new aircraft in addition to the ten(?) they have coming on stream in 2002 will enable them to bring those plans back to the forefront.
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The opportunities to create major new bases at Paris and Gatwick have put the plans for Liverpool, Belfast, Edinburgh and Glasgow on the back burner slightly for the time being.
Maybe if they can acquire new/nearly new aircraft in addition to the ten(?) they have coming on stream in 2002 will enable them to bring those plans back to the forefront.
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