EasyJet Announces Gatwick Expansion
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Gypsy,
An interview is a two way thing.
I didn't like ej and I guess they din't like me. I am not too worried about losing my job thanks. You should think "Tongue in Cheek"....
Any company who calls you for interview for a LGW basing and then tells you "you will HAVE TO go to Edinburgh" is in my opinion taking the p"ss mate.
I asked them not 15 hours ahead of the interview to confirm the T and C's and basing. They effectively didn't tell me the truth.
So, quite frankly gypsy I was not interested. I fly a NICER, BIGGER airplane than the 737 so I couldn't give a flying f?ck about not being orange enough to work at eJ.
I am proud to have my standards and quite frankly, your beloved ej didn't come anywhere near them for me.
Believe the hype if you like, but all the BBQ's in the world on Friday nights will not disguise the fact it is a cheap outfit, with a very average package compared to other airlines....most definitely compared to the current line I am with.
I am staggered that you really believe I should be p'd off because I didn't get into ej. Before you ask, I didn't even apply for the job this year. I applied when I had very few hours and no jet time. A FREAK chance got me the interview.
I am glad you enjoy your job. But do stop ramming it down my throat mate. It aint for me.
If you are not on the assessment/recruitment panel , you should be. You seem the ideal character to p#ss a load more decent pilots off with the orange boll'cks that seems to freely stream from your gob.
Anyhow, no thanks mate. I will pass up the free BBQ's and odd beer for a decent pension and much higher salaries with my mob. Goodbye.
Yours most definitely not orange.
p.s. Augustus. You seem like a well balanced individual. Where is this mutual ej disliking pub you speak of?!?!
[ 26 December 2001: Message edited by: tailscrape ]</p>
An interview is a two way thing.
I didn't like ej and I guess they din't like me. I am not too worried about losing my job thanks. You should think "Tongue in Cheek"....
Any company who calls you for interview for a LGW basing and then tells you "you will HAVE TO go to Edinburgh" is in my opinion taking the p"ss mate.
I asked them not 15 hours ahead of the interview to confirm the T and C's and basing. They effectively didn't tell me the truth.
So, quite frankly gypsy I was not interested. I fly a NICER, BIGGER airplane than the 737 so I couldn't give a flying f?ck about not being orange enough to work at eJ.
I am proud to have my standards and quite frankly, your beloved ej didn't come anywhere near them for me.
Believe the hype if you like, but all the BBQ's in the world on Friday nights will not disguise the fact it is a cheap outfit, with a very average package compared to other airlines....most definitely compared to the current line I am with.
I am staggered that you really believe I should be p'd off because I didn't get into ej. Before you ask, I didn't even apply for the job this year. I applied when I had very few hours and no jet time. A FREAK chance got me the interview.
I am glad you enjoy your job. But do stop ramming it down my throat mate. It aint for me.
If you are not on the assessment/recruitment panel , you should be. You seem the ideal character to p#ss a load more decent pilots off with the orange boll'cks that seems to freely stream from your gob.
Anyhow, no thanks mate. I will pass up the free BBQ's and odd beer for a decent pension and much higher salaries with my mob. Goodbye.
Yours most definitely not orange.
p.s. Augustus. You seem like a well balanced individual. Where is this mutual ej disliking pub you speak of?!?!
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One has to wonder just why you bothered at all with ej interview process if the pension at your current mob is so good. Perhaps you just wanted the practise...
Sleep till you're hungry, eat till you're tired!!
One has to wonder just why you bothered at all with ej interview process if the pension at your current mob is so good. Perhaps you just wanted the practise...
Sleep till you're hungry, eat till you're tired!!
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Good luck in Just Murdered Caledonian Tailsrape. The 757-300 is indeed a very nice machine, hasn't quite got the performance of Boeing NG Pocket Rocket but it does stop well once its bled of its speed oh so slowly.
So you didn't like easyJet. Fair enough.
Lets take a staw poll. You have to join either JMC or easyJet starting next week. Which would you choose? I think most would go with easyJet simply for job security in these turbulent times.
You've made your choice. Others have made theres. Lets act like adults and respect that.
Oh, and Tailscrape, my 'Planes bigger than yours. ;-)
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So you didn't like easyJet. Fair enough.
Lets take a staw poll. You have to join either JMC or easyJet starting next week. Which would you choose? I think most would go with easyJet simply for job security in these turbulent times.
You've made your choice. Others have made theres. Lets act like adults and respect that.
Oh, and Tailscrape, my 'Planes bigger than yours. ;-)
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Indeed, and if by way of 'size is not everything', a mate of mine captains a Gulfstream IV and takes home over £10k (yes, that should read as over ten thousand UK Stirling Pounds, NET) per month !!!
That said, he's never at home, lives out of a suitcase, and accordingly he's applied (and been offered a job) with GoFly - uhm, I wonder if he needs a replacement ?!
That said, he's never at home, lives out of a suitcase, and accordingly he's applied (and been offered a job) with GoFly - uhm, I wonder if he needs a replacement ?!
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Rikky Ramjet,
Answer to your rather facile question.....because I was asked to attend, and I am naturally curious so I thought I would have a look. I didn't like what I saw. So fair do's.
Peter Skellan,
To put an answer to something YOU obviously can't quite grasp: here goes....
Given the choice to join ej or jmc next week. Well, the fact is I joined jmc a while ago. The OVERRIDING fact in my opinion is that I still prefer them to you lot.
What speaks volumes is that I would not join ej next week irrespective of base or conditions. Therefore, I answer it simply: jmc still have my vote over ej. It is all about personal choice. So, please don't think I am trying to offend you ej people. I just didn't think your company is all that.
The grass is not always greener boys......no matter how you want to dress it up!
As far as climb rates and slowing a 753 down, who cares?
I still believe we have a better package all round and that is what I prefer jmc for.
Who knows what the future will hold? But as someone said before "pride comes before a fall."
Whether that will be me this time who knows?? It could be ej in the future though as well. You are doing o.k. now, but that may not last forever.
History suggests this has always been the case! But as we all know now, ej are different aren't they?!?
Anyhow, I will sign off now.
Sorry to have diverted the scintillating debate chaps! Roll on more tailscrape slagging.....
Answer to your rather facile question.....because I was asked to attend, and I am naturally curious so I thought I would have a look. I didn't like what I saw. So fair do's.
Peter Skellan,
To put an answer to something YOU obviously can't quite grasp: here goes....
Given the choice to join ej or jmc next week. Well, the fact is I joined jmc a while ago. The OVERRIDING fact in my opinion is that I still prefer them to you lot.
What speaks volumes is that I would not join ej next week irrespective of base or conditions. Therefore, I answer it simply: jmc still have my vote over ej. It is all about personal choice. So, please don't think I am trying to offend you ej people. I just didn't think your company is all that.
The grass is not always greener boys......no matter how you want to dress it up!
As far as climb rates and slowing a 753 down, who cares?
I still believe we have a better package all round and that is what I prefer jmc for.
Who knows what the future will hold? But as someone said before "pride comes before a fall."
Whether that will be me this time who knows?? It could be ej in the future though as well. You are doing o.k. now, but that may not last forever.
History suggests this has always been the case! But as we all know now, ej are different aren't they?!?
Anyhow, I will sign off now.
Sorry to have diverted the scintillating debate chaps! Roll on more tailscrape slagging.....
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Tailscrape - wow - angry boy. Is that better package at JMC before or after the 10% pay cut?
One of the lessons in life as you grow up is don't go for interviews unless you really want the job.
Try not to get so angry in future as well - something has clearly got under your skin.
One of the lessons in life as you grow up is don't go for interviews unless you really want the job.
Try not to get so angry in future as well - something has clearly got under your skin.
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You don't appear to be a happy bunny at all, do you Tailscrape? All that money and superb pension to look forward to!
To put a few things into perspective: airlines tell the truth on the day, as they see it. You should know that aviation is ever changing and evolving. I know a number of people who have been offered positions with different - not low cost - airlines, who have had offers of employment subsequently withdrawn, after they had resigned. Some of those people are now unemployed!
Personally, I found the ezy application/interview procedure to be excellent. Invited in for i/v 3 days after application, informed i/v result that afternoon and sent straight to S'ampton for sim the next day. Informed of final result 3 days later. I know they had their problems in the past but they appear to have sorted most of them out.
As a matter of interest, I got through the BA selection in '96, and was left in the 'hold pool' for 4 yrs. Is that the way it should be done?
I am happily starting with ezy in the new year, due to it's continued growth. Had JMC offered me a position before the 11th Sept', do you really think I would still be starting in a few days? I very much doubt it.
By the way, at my ezy i/v I had the least number of hours - 2500. Ezy pilots can't ALL be crap can they??
To put a few things into perspective: airlines tell the truth on the day, as they see it. You should know that aviation is ever changing and evolving. I know a number of people who have been offered positions with different - not low cost - airlines, who have had offers of employment subsequently withdrawn, after they had resigned. Some of those people are now unemployed!
Personally, I found the ezy application/interview procedure to be excellent. Invited in for i/v 3 days after application, informed i/v result that afternoon and sent straight to S'ampton for sim the next day. Informed of final result 3 days later. I know they had their problems in the past but they appear to have sorted most of them out.
As a matter of interest, I got through the BA selection in '96, and was left in the 'hold pool' for 4 yrs. Is that the way it should be done?
I am happily starting with ezy in the new year, due to it's continued growth. Had JMC offered me a position before the 11th Sept', do you really think I would still be starting in a few days? I very much doubt it.
By the way, at my ezy i/v I had the least number of hours - 2500. Ezy pilots can't ALL be crap can they??
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The Times
Directions: Travel news: Easier-Jet for the south
Easier-Jet for the south
The low-cost airline EasyJet hopes to make Gatwick its main base for cheap flights to Europe by next summer. In February, the no-frills carrier, which is currently based primarily at Luton, will double the number of routes it serves from London's second airport by launching flights to Edinburgh, Zurich, Malaga and Palma. These will complement its existing network of
Amsterdam, Barcelona, Geneva and Nice. The move will make it the second-largest scheduled airline at Gatwick behind British Airways (BA).
EasyJet (0870 600 0000; <a href="http://www.easyjet.com" target="_blank">http://www.easyjet.com</a> wants to capitalise on the large catchment area in central and south London
and the southern counties, as well as Gatwick's superior public-transport links. Previous attempts to develop the airport had
been thwarted by BA, which holds nearly 65% of all Gatwick's takeoff and landing slots. However, since September 11, BA has been forced to withdraw from several European routes and EasyJet has been quick to pounce on the spare capacity. It hopes to launch more flights in the forthcoming months, as BA relinquishes further routes and concentrates its operations on Heathrow.
EasyJet's new Gatwick flights all launch within the space of three days. From February 12, there will be five flights a day to
Edinburgh; from February 13, twice-daily flights to Zurich; and from February 14, flights will leave twice a day for Malaga and once for Palma. Fares will be from £55 return, including taxes.
EasyJet's expansion is the latest episode in the low-cost airlines' success story. Earlier this month, Buzz (0870 240 7070;
<a href="http://www.buzzaway.com/)" target="_blank">http://www.buzzaway.com/)</a> announced that it is increasing its French services and would overtake Air France as the biggest carrier to France from the UK, and Go (0870 607 6543; <a href="http://www.go-fly.com" target="_blank">http://www.go-fly.com</a> revealed that it will begin operations from East Midlands airport, just outside Leicester, from next May, flying to several destinations in France and Spain. Ryanair is also expected to launch new services within the next few months.
Directions: Travel news: Easier-Jet for the south
Easier-Jet for the south
The low-cost airline EasyJet hopes to make Gatwick its main base for cheap flights to Europe by next summer. In February, the no-frills carrier, which is currently based primarily at Luton, will double the number of routes it serves from London's second airport by launching flights to Edinburgh, Zurich, Malaga and Palma. These will complement its existing network of
Amsterdam, Barcelona, Geneva and Nice. The move will make it the second-largest scheduled airline at Gatwick behind British Airways (BA).
EasyJet (0870 600 0000; <a href="http://www.easyjet.com" target="_blank">http://www.easyjet.com</a> wants to capitalise on the large catchment area in central and south London
and the southern counties, as well as Gatwick's superior public-transport links. Previous attempts to develop the airport had
been thwarted by BA, which holds nearly 65% of all Gatwick's takeoff and landing slots. However, since September 11, BA has been forced to withdraw from several European routes and EasyJet has been quick to pounce on the spare capacity. It hopes to launch more flights in the forthcoming months, as BA relinquishes further routes and concentrates its operations on Heathrow.
EasyJet's new Gatwick flights all launch within the space of three days. From February 12, there will be five flights a day to
Edinburgh; from February 13, twice-daily flights to Zurich; and from February 14, flights will leave twice a day for Malaga and once for Palma. Fares will be from £55 return, including taxes.
EasyJet's expansion is the latest episode in the low-cost airlines' success story. Earlier this month, Buzz (0870 240 7070;
<a href="http://www.buzzaway.com/)" target="_blank">http://www.buzzaway.com/)</a> announced that it is increasing its French services and would overtake Air France as the biggest carrier to France from the UK, and Go (0870 607 6543; <a href="http://www.go-fly.com" target="_blank">http://www.go-fly.com</a> revealed that it will begin operations from East Midlands airport, just outside Leicester, from next May, flying to several destinations in France and Spain. Ryanair is also expected to launch new services within the next few months.
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To all you tailscrape knockers:
No I am not bitter, i am enjoying a lovely time (not holiday) with my family.
I did not accept any pay cut.
Can't u accept the fact I actually enjoy my job and think i work for a better company than you............i think u lot sound bitter.
Anyhow. All the best for 2002. Even though u lot seem to be too keen to be offensive.
No I am not bitter, i am enjoying a lovely time (not holiday) with my family.
I did not accept any pay cut.
Can't u accept the fact I actually enjoy my job and think i work for a better company than you............i think u lot sound bitter.
Anyhow. All the best for 2002. Even though u lot seem to be too keen to be offensive.
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Hi Tailscrape.
I see from your threads that you were an ATP cadet and went to JMC. Was your eJ interview during your time on the scheme? And if so was JMC also as a result of the ATP Academy? Just interested, because if so an ATP Cadet saying any company did not come up their own high standards seems a little rich? Just hoping you might be able to clear up the general interest in your dig at the low cost boys. Thanks!
I see from your threads that you were an ATP cadet and went to JMC. Was your eJ interview during your time on the scheme? And if so was JMC also as a result of the ATP Academy? Just interested, because if so an ATP Cadet saying any company did not come up their own high standards seems a little rich? Just hoping you might be able to clear up the general interest in your dig at the low cost boys. Thanks!
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Hey tailscrape - I guess we'll have to let up on you but just consider: -
In your post on another thread about a new operator at NCL you said something like 'I may be looking for a job soon', so don't give us the 'you blessed ezy with attending the interview they asked to to come along to but then you turned the job down' routine - afraid it doesn't add up.
We're not bitter - we work for ezy and have not applied to JMC whilst you on the other hand work for JMC and came along to an interview with ezy - is this getting through?
As I said before the good advice is not to go to interviews unless you want the job - no point scorching bridges that you might need in the future!
Finally I wish you and all others in JMC well - I'm sure its a good company and I hope you all pull through.
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In your post on another thread about a new operator at NCL you said something like 'I may be looking for a job soon', so don't give us the 'you blessed ezy with attending the interview they asked to to come along to but then you turned the job down' routine - afraid it doesn't add up.
We're not bitter - we work for ezy and have not applied to JMC whilst you on the other hand work for JMC and came along to an interview with ezy - is this getting through?
As I said before the good advice is not to go to interviews unless you want the job - no point scorching bridges that you might need in the future!
Finally I wish you and all others in JMC well - I'm sure its a good company and I hope you all pull through.
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Hmmm, given a choice between EZY (expanding company going places) and Just Might Collapse flying 753s to TFS at zero dark hundred full of drunken yobbos... well, that's a pretty hard choice. I can see how you had problems with it, Tailscrape 
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Well Guv, given the choice of winter months doing 4 trips to the Canaries or 6 days a week doing Short sectors in crap weather, I'll take charter ta very much. Now before anyone else kicks off, I've been to Easyland, done it, passed it and it was a pleasant 2 days out. Their product is good, its a company with some great ideas but the package is no better than any other operator of similar equipment. Spent plenty of life working 6 days on, you're welcome to it.
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There may be no such thing as a stupid question in the flying game, but there are definitely occasions when it is better to sit in the corner and watch quietly letting people think you are stupid than to open your mouth and prove it....fmgs!
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