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737 Landing With Blown Tire

Old 2nd Sep 2008, 20:29
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737 Landing With Blown Tire

MSNBC states an AA 737 blew one main tire on takeoff from LAX. Now burning off fuel and will land when weight down to acceptable level.
News folks are speculating endlessly.
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LAX AA emergency landing planned. Burning off fuel. Blew Tire. Continuing.....

LAX AA emergency landing planned. Burning off fuel. Blew Tire. LAX to Toronto flight . Continuing..... CNN
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How very unexciting.
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Old 2nd Sep 2008, 20:34
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Then don't reply.

Left inboard tire blew. TO 3 hrs ago !?
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AA1586 04900 ft 256 kts B738 135 people on board, over catalina circling left turns

CNN Flight tracker.
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Fox are annoying

They keep on saying it is dumping fuel.

However pilots is it difficult to land with one burst tyre?

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Just land......
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Looks like it's heading inbound to LAX.
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Old 2nd Sep 2008, 20:52
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Landed. A bit of smoke near left inboard tire during roll-out.

Fire trucks

Good landing. Runway closed.

Media no longer interested
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Old 2nd Sep 2008, 20:57
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A link to the ground track posted above:

FlightAware > Live Flight Tracker > American Airlines Inc. #1586 > 02-Sep-2008 > KLAX-KLAX

They keep on saying it is dumping fuel.
Yeah, I'm sure it is. Also the tire was the main gear inboard on the nose gear.
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Old 2nd Sep 2008, 21:00
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watching on a webcam at LAX and aircraft came to a stop for a few minutes. It has now moved off screen under own steam followed by a couple of fire trucks.
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for the record, cnn made it clear the plane was burning off fuel and NOT DUMPING fuel...

also, planes don't move under their own steam...;-)
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Old 2nd Sep 2008, 21:17
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Case closed, it seems.

Now, back to normal (sometimes uninformed) programming.

Ho hum...
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Old 2nd Sep 2008, 23:16
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Almost everything they reported by the FOX news bimbo during that long special broadcast was flat wrong or incorrect. While saying that they didn't want to sensationalize the thing, that's precisely what their intent was and what, in fact, they did.

They said the captain was dumping fuel. It wasn't. It was burning off fuel.

They talked about how dangerous a landing it would be. It isn't. Boeing builds their aircraft to land safely on the remaining tire.

Their "pilot" consultant on the air was an idiot didn't seem to know a 737 from a baked potato.

The pilot consultant said that the pilots' train in the simulator routinely for blown tire scenarios. Wrong. I've NEVER trained for a blown tire in the simulator in almost 30 years of flying. There were always much more serious things to train for.

They zoomed in on a 757 on final approach and identified it as the 737 in question.

Just another pathetic display of incompetence and fear-mongering on the news medias part.

BTW, the airplane landed safely and after a quick inspection by the AARF, taxied into the gate to discharge pax, inspect the landing gear in detail, and change the tires on the left main.
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It's Fox News, what else did you expect? Sky News is owned by the same genius... and has the same shoddy quality of news reporting.

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Old 3rd Sep 2008, 00:52
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so, why didn't you want to watch CNN?

cnn reported the plane was burning off fuel and made it clear this type didn't have "dump'' capability.

that the plane should be able to land safely on the remaining tire.

it quickly clarified that the 757 was NOT the plane in question, noticing the landing gear had too many tires.
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OK, operational question - if it was safe to fly in circles near LAX for a bit, wouldn't it be just as easy to fly in a straight line towards the destination given the number of suitable landing sites en route? Or is the main concern that there might be fire or damage associated with the burst tyre so they want to be in a position where they could just land in a few minutes regardless of weight if they had to?
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OK, operational question - if it was safe to fly in circles near LAX for a bit, wouldn't it be just as easy to fly in a straight line towards the destination given the number of suitable landing sites en route? Or is the main concern that there might be fire or damage associated with the burst tyre so they want to be in a position where they could just land in a few minutes regardless of weight if they had to?
From an uneducated point of view (talking of myself) I agree with you, but I think back to the concorde accident in paris and unless you know the damage done to the plane I would think the best thing is to stay close to the tarmac, burn of fuel whilst all looks okay and stay within range should the situation suddenly change and require a sudden change of plan.

Tho, I will confess I am not an aviator and my comments should therefore be treated accordingly
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llondel

sorry, good pilots just don't think that way.

so, what if you retract the gear and head on to the destination, knowing you will have to make an emergency landing there?

and what if, halfway there, someone on board has a baby, or you have an engine faliure unrelated to the tire problem and you have to land

and that airport, nearest to the engine failure, or passenger problem has a runway that is only 8000' long instead of LAX's 11000feet?

so now you have an engine failure and one blown tire

its called: WHAT IF?


there are dozens of scenarios that could be played out if you leave a sure thing, like LAX in sight with great weather.

if our leaders in washington would only think like pilots! (hey, maybe bush wasn't a good pilot!)
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