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Old 24th Aug 2008, 16:11
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Plane Crash In Manas Kyrgyzstan - CFIT

Sky news reporting passenger jet down in BISHKEK Kyrgystan.
No more at this time.
Reports of casualties.

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As of May 2008, the average age of the Itek Air fleet is 29.9 years ([1]).


Was only time before it happend
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The EU has again banned Kyrgyz airlines from landing in EU countries due to their poor safety standards. Some observers believe corruption is rampant within the airlines’ administrations and does not allow companies to develop and meet international maintenance and safety standards. Heads of the companies, however, disagree, saying many were not inspected by the EU prior to being blacklisted.
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Exclamation CNN reports

Jet crashes in Kyrgyzstan - CNN.com

Jet crashes in Kyrgyzstan

<LI class=cnnHiliteHeader _extended="true">Story Highlights <LI _extended="true">Boeing passenger jet crashed while taking off, reports Russian news agencies
<LI _extended="true">There are casualties, and jet is a Boeing 737, agency says, citing unidentified source
<LI _extended="true">Interfax news agency says the Itek-Air flight was headed to Iran
MOSCOW, Russia (AP) -- Russian news agencies report that a Boeing passenger jet has crashed while taking off in Kyrgyzstan's capital, Bishkek.
The Interfax news agency cites an unidentified source as saying there are casualties and identifies the plane as a Boeing 737.
RIA-Novosti cites an unnamed spokesperson at a U.S. air base near the airport in Bishkek as saying a passenger airliner crashed. Officials at the airport and the base could not be reached.
Interfax says the Itek-Air flight was headed to Iran.
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The EU has again banned Kyrgyz airlines from landing in EU countries due to their poor safety standards. Some observers believe corruption is rampant within the airlines’ administrations and does not allow companies to develop and meet international maintenance and safety standards. Heads of the companies, however, disagree, saying many were not inspected by the EU prior to being blacklisted.
I'm not sure whether the words are your opinion or a quote from somewhere. However, I believe that the approach taken by the EU when compiling the so called blacklist is to look at the national aviation authority arrangements (at least in the first instance). If the CAA or whatever is not doing - or able to do - oversight against EU and international standards then there is no way of knowing whether individual operators are sound. Even if a quick check 'on the day' by EU inspectors were to show that everything is OK, without ongoing oversight at national level there is no guarantee that it will continue to be OK.

Sadly none of this changes anything for those on board.
 
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BBC reporting it as an emergency landing, after take off.
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According to russian news agencies (Interfax, RIA Novosti):

- 123 people on board (according to ministry of public safety)
- flight was to Mashhad, Iran
- an airport official reported, that airplane "fell suddenly after lift-off down", near a village ("Dshangi Dsher"), about 2 kilometers from airport, "упал сразу после взлета в районе села Джанги-Джер"
 
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MOSCOW (Reuters) - A passenger plane crashed at the airport of Kyrgyzstan's capital Bishkek with around 100 people on board, Russian news agencies reported on Sunday.

RIA news agency quoted the press service of the U.S. airbase located at the Bishkek airport Manas as saying the plane crashed on take-off.
"At the moment rescue teams, fire brigades and medics are rushing to the crash site," an airbase spokeswoman told RIA.

Interfax news agency quoted an airport source as saying the Boeing-737 belonged to a private Kyrgyz company Itek-Air and was bound for Iran.
The source said that according to preliminary information 100 people were on board.

All carriers in Kyrgyzstan are subject to a blanket ban on operations to the European Union.

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Passenger jet crashes in Kyrgyzstan, news agencies report


MOSCOW, Russia (AP) -- A Boeing passenger jet crashed Sunday while taking off from the airport in Kyrgyzstan's capital, Bishkek, Russian news agencies reported.


However, an official at the airport characterized the accident as an emergency landing. The official, who said she had no information about casualties, spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because she was not authorized to give her name to the media.


The Interfax news agency quoted an unidentified airport official as saying the plane went down near the airport and that there were casualties. Interfax said the plane was a Boeing-737 with more than 100 people aboard.

The RIA-Novosti news agency quoted an unidentified spokesman at a U.S. air base at Bishkek's Manas airport as saying a passenger plane crashed near a village close to the airport shortly after takeoff. Officials at the U.S. base could not immediately be reached for comment.

Interfax said the plane belonged to a company called Itak-Air and was headed to Mashhad in northeastern Iran.
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Taken from the bbc website:

A passenger plane has crashed shortly after take-off from Kyrgyzstan's capital, Bishkek, reports say.
Alexander Aksyonov from the civil aviation agency has been quoted as saying there are casualties.
Russian news agencies report that the Itek-Air Boeing 737 was on its way to Mashhad, in north-eastern Iran, with up to 100 people on board.
Officials from a nearby US base are reported to have sent a rescue team to the site of the accident.
BBC NEWS | World | Asia-Pacific | 'Plane crashes in Kyrgyz capital'
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Russian news agencies now report it was a flight to Tehran, probably IRC6895 which departed on schedule at 20:30 local time. That would be Iran Aseman Airlines (Iran).
 
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737 Down!

Not to much info yet apparently 25 survivors I think it was a 200, a bad week for the Airline industry.
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Source – Russian and Kyrgyz blogs and aviation forums

Flight IRC6895
Registration EX-311
Serial number MSN: 22088 - line 676
First flight: 16 june 1980
Plane Type: Boeing 737-219

charter flight for basketball team
87 aboard, 15 survivors

After take off requested emergency landing
made first attempt unsuccessful
second attempt – crashed 10 km to runway

The local authority closed all info sources
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An airport official said the crash occurred after the crew reported a technical problem on board about 10 minutes into the flight to Tehran, Iran, and said they were returning to the airport. The official spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because she was not authorized to give her name. Kyrgyz Interior Minister Maldomusa Kongatiyev told the AP there were seven crew members on board in addition to the 83 passengers. He said the plane went down 6 miles from the airport.
Interfax quoted Kyrgyz Emergency Situations Minister Kamchibek Tashiyev as saying the plane crashed 3 miles from the airport and that it had 123 people on board.
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I suppose that we are going to repeat the first 20 pages of the Spanair thread. perhaps we could just insert a direct link into this thread and save the bandwidth.

For me I would like to see photos or new reports (including what some call trash reports) and absorb and challenge the reported facts before putting forth causal theories.

any other takers?
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"All carriers in Kyrgyzstan are subject to a blanket ban on operations to the European Union."

I don't know how you can compare the Spanair crash to this one.
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Survivors reported after Kyrgyz 737-200 crash

Survivors reported after Kyrgyz 737-200 crash
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I don't know how you can compare the Spanair crash to this one.
Very simple, lots of people dead, but I suppose because it's in that part of the world no-one here is bothered about it.
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Thanks God, there are survivors!

Officials confirm 25 survivors of Kyrgyz crash - 3rd Update :

Bishkek/Moscow - Kyrgyz officials could only confirm 25 survivors so far of the 90 passengers and crew aboard a 737 passenger airliner that crashed near the country's capital Bishkek on Sunday. Officials corrected the number of persons aboard the plane from a previously reported 123.

Unconfirmed local reports citing Itek Air, the airline that owned the plane, said that around 60 people perished in the crash about 5 kilometres outside the capital city. There was no word as to the fate of the other persons.

The country's Civil Defence Ministry reported that the downed airliner, which had been en route from Bishkek to Iran, was completely consumed by fire.

Itek Air is one of more than a dozen Kyrgyz airlines that are banned from flying into the European Union due to safety concerns.
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I suppose that we are going to repeat the first 20 pages of the Spanair thread. perhaps we could just insert a direct link into this thread and save the bandwidth.

For me I would like to see photos or new reports (including what some call trash reports) and absorb and challenge the reported facts before putting forth causal theories.

any other takers?





I am disgusted, people get sick. injured and lose thier lives, and thats what you come up with, have some respect!!

If airlines and manufacturer's can NOT afford to maintain their jets properly then they have NO right to be in business,

A bad week for the airline industry, to say the least, more poor people with tags on their toes!!!

Money, money, money!!!
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