Plane Crash In Manas Kyrgyzstan - CFIT
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Tut Tut, spelling and grammar faulty Carbis. If you are going to level criticism of that nature yourself, better make sure you are in the clear.
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BIG airport for that region. Runway more than 13,000ft long. Busy with all that military traffic.
google 43 02n 72 28E google earth.
The old airport has been apparently torn up. In southern part of the city near the VOR.
google 43 02n 72 28E google earth.
The old airport has been apparently torn up. In southern part of the city near the VOR.
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1. 20 survivors, of which 3 in critical condition
2. total 90 people on board (passengers + crew)
3. flight crew survived (no details on condition; no details on cabin crew)
4. the aircraft developed problems shortly after takeoff, attempted to return back to the airport, crashed short of the runway (about 2km short?)
various sources mention engine problems and/or pressurization problems
somebody also recalled that today is 4th anniversary of 24 August 2004 double aircraft bombing
1. 20 survivors, of which 3 in critical condition
2. total 90 people on board (passengers + crew)
3. flight crew survived (no details on condition; no details on cabin crew)
4. the aircraft developed problems shortly after takeoff, attempted to return back to the airport, crashed short of the runway (about 2km short?)
various sources mention engine problems and/or pressurization problems
somebody also recalled that today is 4th anniversary of 24 August 2004 double aircraft bombing
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Kyrgyz prime minister Igor Cudinov said, according to RIA Novosti, that crew wanted to return because of a "cabin depressurisation" and crashed at 20:40 local time (10 minutes after takeoff).
RIA Novosti (Russian)
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On August 24, 2004, two russian airliners were brought down by terrorist bombs, check the wiki for details:
Russian aircraft bombings of August 2004 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
89 souls were killed
Russian aircraft bombings of August 2004 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
89 souls were killed
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Manas International location
BIG airport for that region. Runway more than 13,000ft long. Busy with all that military traffic.
google 43 02n 72 28E google earth.
google 43 02n 72 28E google earth.
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737-200 crash
Info I have that their were 90 onboard and 71 have died. This will be fresh on the heels of the Spanair disaster and im sure will not put the public at ease.
"Sixty-five people have died in a crash of a passenger plane in the Kyrgyzstan capital of Bishkek.
The Boeing 737-200, chartered by an Iranian company and bound for Tehran, crashed soon after take-off, a spokeswoman for Manas airport said.
'It took off and reported a technical problem and tried to return to the airport,' the spokeswoman said."
"Iran Aseman Airlines Flight 6875 from Bishkek (FRU), Kyrgyzstan to Tehran (THR), Iran was carried out by Itek Air.
The airplane reportedly departed about 20:30 and crashed shortly after takeoff. Unconfirmed reports indicate that the pilot had attempted to return to the airport for an emergency landing.
METAR weather reported indicate that there was a thunderstorm with associated rain passing over Bishkek from 16:30 to 20:00 local time. Over that period the wind shifted from 220 degrees to 100 degrees at 20:30. Wind was blowing at about 6 kts, with wind variable at 23 knots. The temperature had dropped from 31 to 27 degrees C.
The registration is said to have been EX-311, but this has not been confirmed yet by official reports"
"Sixty-five people have died in a crash of a passenger plane in the Kyrgyzstan capital of Bishkek.
The Boeing 737-200, chartered by an Iranian company and bound for Tehran, crashed soon after take-off, a spokeswoman for Manas airport said.
'It took off and reported a technical problem and tried to return to the airport,' the spokeswoman said."
"Iran Aseman Airlines Flight 6875 from Bishkek (FRU), Kyrgyzstan to Tehran (THR), Iran was carried out by Itek Air.
The airplane reportedly departed about 20:30 and crashed shortly after takeoff. Unconfirmed reports indicate that the pilot had attempted to return to the airport for an emergency landing.
METAR weather reported indicate that there was a thunderstorm with associated rain passing over Bishkek from 16:30 to 20:00 local time. Over that period the wind shifted from 220 degrees to 100 degrees at 20:30. Wind was blowing at about 6 kts, with wind variable at 23 knots. The temperature had dropped from 31 to 27 degrees C.
The registration is said to have been EX-311, but this has not been confirmed yet by official reports"
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Aug 24, 2008 Latest Headlines...
Bishkek plane might have made emergency landing
BISHKEK. Aug 24 (Interfax) - Kyrgyz Emergency Minister Kamchibek
Tashiyev has confirmed the crash of the Bishkek airplane, which was
bound for Iran.
"The plane crashed five kilometers away from the Manas
International Airport. It was a Boeing 737 with 123 people on board,"
Tashiyev told Interfax.
"So far there is no exact information as to whether the plane was
owned" by a local or an Iranian airline company, he said.
Nor does the minister have any information about a possible number
of casualties at this stage.
All Kyrgyz emergency rescue teams and ambulance cars have been
called in to the plane crash site. The Kyrgyz emergency minister and
transport minister are due to arrive here shortly.
The plane is believed to have crashed not far from the Manas
Airport near the village of Dzhangi-Dzher.
The Manas Airport is located 30 kilometers away from Bishkek.
Earlier, an airport source told Interfax that the Boeing 737
passenger jet crashed during a takeoff not far from the Bishkek Manas
airport. According to early estimates, there are casualties.
The airplane is owned by Itek Air, a private airline company. It
was due to fly from Bishkek to Mashhad (Iran), the source said.
A spokesperson for the anti-terrorist coalition air base confirmed
the airport accident to Interfax and said that a team of rescue workers
has been sent to the crash site.
Meanwhile, the Manas Airport has not confirmed the air crash to the
Ekho Moskvy radio station.
"The airplane did not crash, it made an emergency landing. This
plane is owned by a Tehran airline company," an airport spokesperson
told the Ekho Moskvy radio.
There are "no casualties," the official said and refused to further
comment on the incident.
"Currently, airline company officials and all bosses are near the
plane, they are not giving us any information," the spokesperson said.
kk
Bishkek plane might have made emergency landing
BISHKEK. Aug 24 (Interfax) - Kyrgyz Emergency Minister Kamchibek
Tashiyev has confirmed the crash of the Bishkek airplane, which was
bound for Iran.
"The plane crashed five kilometers away from the Manas
International Airport. It was a Boeing 737 with 123 people on board,"
Tashiyev told Interfax.
"So far there is no exact information as to whether the plane was
owned" by a local or an Iranian airline company, he said.
Nor does the minister have any information about a possible number
of casualties at this stage.
All Kyrgyz emergency rescue teams and ambulance cars have been
called in to the plane crash site. The Kyrgyz emergency minister and
transport minister are due to arrive here shortly.
The plane is believed to have crashed not far from the Manas
Airport near the village of Dzhangi-Dzher.
The Manas Airport is located 30 kilometers away from Bishkek.
Earlier, an airport source told Interfax that the Boeing 737
passenger jet crashed during a takeoff not far from the Bishkek Manas
airport. According to early estimates, there are casualties.
The airplane is owned by Itek Air, a private airline company. It
was due to fly from Bishkek to Mashhad (Iran), the source said.
A spokesperson for the anti-terrorist coalition air base confirmed
the airport accident to Interfax and said that a team of rescue workers
has been sent to the crash site.
Meanwhile, the Manas Airport has not confirmed the air crash to the
Ekho Moskvy radio station.
"The airplane did not crash, it made an emergency landing. This
plane is owned by a Tehran airline company," an airport spokesperson
told the Ekho Moskvy radio.
There are "no casualties," the official said and refused to further
comment on the incident.
"Currently, airline company officials and all bosses are near the
plane, they are not giving us any information," the spokesperson said.
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The AKIpress news agency (Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan) published names and DOB of 22 survivors, 11 citizens of Kyrgyz republic, 11 citizens of Iran. They also reported of 65 dead.
Unofficial sources (local avia forum) told all crew are alive.
Фоторепортаж с места крушения самолета «Боинг-737»
Unofficial sources (local avia forum) told all crew are alive.
Фоторепортаж с места крушения самолета «Боинг-737»
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Images - Фоторепортаж с места крушения самолета «Боинг-737»
Visible serial number "EX-009",
this plane- Itek Air EX-311 (Boeing 737) (Ex EX-009 HP1288CMP N318CM ) - Airfleets
Visible serial number "EX-009",
this plane- Itek Air EX-311 (Boeing 737) (Ex EX-009 HP1288CMP N318CM ) - Airfleets
from the AKI press site:
http://static.akipress.org/photo/aviacatastrofa/14.jpg
seems to show some large forcible penetrations formed at some point in the incident. (and, no, I am not trying to imply what formed them, nor that they are any any way causal, but they seem unusual to me)
Currently url's like that shown numbered 1 through 14 all relate to this incident.
http://static.akipress.org/photo/aviacatastrofa/14.jpg
seems to show some large forcible penetrations formed at some point in the incident. (and, no, I am not trying to imply what formed them, nor that they are any any way causal, but they seem unusual to me)
Currently url's like that shown numbered 1 through 14 all relate to this incident.
from the AKI press site:
http://static.akipress.org/photo/aviacatastrofa/14.jpg
seems to show some large forcible penetrations formed at some point in the incident. (and, no, I am not trying to imply what formed them, nor that they are any any way causal, but they seem unusual to me)
Currently url's like that shown numbered 1 through 14 all relate to this incident.
http://static.akipress.org/photo/aviacatastrofa/14.jpg
seems to show some large forcible penetrations formed at some point in the incident. (and, no, I am not trying to imply what formed them, nor that they are any any way causal, but they seem unusual to me)
Currently url's like that shown numbered 1 through 14 all relate to this incident.
I agree, unusual and significant. I don't see some of these pics as being post impact. In some of them there appears to be through holes in the wing structure. But I'll see what others say before I form a stronger opinion.
It would be interesting to see more photos of the general wing to tell if it was intact when it landed.
Well I don't know...
CNN has this photo of the crashed AC.
But as it is reported down late Sunday morning, this evening photo still shows a lot of smoke coming from the wreckage.
Surely the fire would have been put out by dark.
At least the report says all crew survived.
Something does not add-up. Old photo perhaps?
FlyNerd
CNN has this photo of the crashed AC.
But as it is reported down late Sunday morning, this evening photo still shows a lot of smoke coming from the wreckage.
Surely the fire would have been put out by dark.
At least the report says all crew survived.
Something does not add-up. Old photo perhaps?
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the b737-200 "classic" or now refered to as 732, is a good, but old aircraft. I was type rated in it in the 80's.
Very bad post accident fire as evident by the skin burned off all of the tail section and other charring in other photos. Tail section intact sitting upright indicating probably not a real high-g impact. Click here to see the JT8d-9 or -15 engine? Somebody correct me on this:
http://static.akipress.org/photo/aviacatastrofa/16.jpg
Appears to be a cowless [deleted word "core"] engine left in above link photo. The mid bent structure are non-rotating inlet guide vanes. The bent compressor disc appears to me to have been rotating at the time of impact.
JMHO's.
Corrections from qualified mechanics?
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Very bad post accident fire as evident by the skin burned off all of the tail section and other charring in other photos. Tail section intact sitting upright indicating probably not a real high-g impact. Click here to see the JT8d-9 or -15 engine? Somebody correct me on this:
http://static.akipress.org/photo/aviacatastrofa/16.jpg
Appears to be a cowless [deleted word "core"] engine left in above link photo. The mid bent structure are non-rotating inlet guide vanes. The bent compressor disc appears to me to have been rotating at the time of impact.
JMHO's.
Corrections from qualified mechanics?
pac
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Itek Air - Canadians onboard ? via just4airlines.com
August 24, 2008 According ot the Associated Press: Reports that 24 people survived, including seven members of a high school basketball team from Bishkek.
Kyrgyz Prime Minister Igor Chudinov told Reuters the flight carried passengers from Canada, China, Turkey, Iran and Kyrgyzstan, but provided no further details.
A Foreign Affairs spokesperson said in an e-mail that the Canadian embassy in Kazakhstan is aware of news reports and that consular officials are in contact with local officials to confirm if any Canadians were on the plane.
Earlier, Kyrgstani Interior Minister Maldomusa Kongatiyev told the Associated Press there were 83 passengers and seven crew members aboard when the plane went down about 10 kilometres from the airport. The jet crashed shortly after takeoff during an attempt to return to Manas International Airport, where it had left for a flight to Tehran. The crew of the Boeing 737 reported a technical problem about 10 minutes into the flight.
At least 14 of the 24 survivors were admitted to hospital and two were in critical condition, emergency officials said.
An airport official said the plane belonged to Itek Air, a Kyrgstani company, but was operated by Iran Aseman Airlines.
Itek Air has been barred from operating in European Union airspace because of failure to meet safety and aviation standards, according to a list published by the EU on July 24. Emergency Situations Ministry spokesman Ramis Satybekov said the crash was likely caused by either an engine failure or a malfunction in the plane's flight control system. However, Daudova said the cause of the crash was decompression of the jet.
Source: Associated Press
Kyrgyz Prime Minister Igor Chudinov told Reuters the flight carried passengers from Canada, China, Turkey, Iran and Kyrgyzstan, but provided no further details.
A Foreign Affairs spokesperson said in an e-mail that the Canadian embassy in Kazakhstan is aware of news reports and that consular officials are in contact with local officials to confirm if any Canadians were on the plane.
Earlier, Kyrgstani Interior Minister Maldomusa Kongatiyev told the Associated Press there were 83 passengers and seven crew members aboard when the plane went down about 10 kilometres from the airport. The jet crashed shortly after takeoff during an attempt to return to Manas International Airport, where it had left for a flight to Tehran. The crew of the Boeing 737 reported a technical problem about 10 minutes into the flight.
At least 14 of the 24 survivors were admitted to hospital and two were in critical condition, emergency officials said.
An airport official said the plane belonged to Itek Air, a Kyrgstani company, but was operated by Iran Aseman Airlines.
Itek Air has been barred from operating in European Union airspace because of failure to meet safety and aviation standards, according to a list published by the EU on July 24. Emergency Situations Ministry spokesman Ramis Satybekov said the crash was likely caused by either an engine failure or a malfunction in the plane's flight control system. However, Daudova said the cause of the crash was decompression of the jet.
Source: Associated Press