XL Tail Strike Samos Greece
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Europe
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
As a 737 skipper flying for Olympic I can clarify that Samos is considered Cat C airport for 737 and Cat B for ATR42-72. Olympic's OM Part C states:
Operational Restrictions
When surface wind direction is between 340° and 020° and maximum
crosswind exceeds 25kts, T/O and LDG is prohibited.
Night T/Os and LDGs are authorized provided:
i) Maximum crosswind component is 15kts.
ii) Ceilling is at least 2.700ft and Visibility 8km or more.
iii) Runway and obstruction lights are all serviceable.
T/O from RWY27 at night is not authorized.
It's a tricky airport, although I think Rodos with southern winds is the most dangerous one.
Operational Restrictions
When surface wind direction is between 340° and 020° and maximum
crosswind exceeds 25kts, T/O and LDG is prohibited.
Night T/Os and LDGs are authorized provided:
i) Maximum crosswind component is 15kts.
ii) Ceilling is at least 2.700ft and Visibility 8km or more.
iii) Runway and obstruction lights are all serviceable.
T/O from RWY27 at night is not authorized.
It's a tricky airport, although I think Rodos with southern winds is the most dangerous one.
Last edited by Olympian; 22nd Jun 2008 at 15:38.
Per Ardua ad Astraeus
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: UK
Posts: 18,579
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Went in there a while back in a 737NG and watched the CP of Novair having an 'exciting moment' on 09 in a AB321, after which he told me he was reducing the X-wind limit for the 321, as he had run out of aileron control...................
It's real and it can be nasty and 09 can be worse than FNC at its worst.
It's real and it can be nasty and 09 can be worse than FNC at its worst.
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: 33000ft
Age: 44
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
fatboy slim, where did you get your info on the C - reg pilots struggling with greece??
I know and work with these guys and believe me if they can bring a 737 in with nearly zero visibilty in heavy snow and short icy runways in Canada i think samos and mikonos is just another airport for them!
I have great respect for them and are the best and most friendly flightdeck crew i've ever had the chance to work and fly with.
Well done Sunwing crew
I know and work with these guys and believe me if they can bring a 737 in with nearly zero visibilty in heavy snow and short icy runways in Canada i think samos and mikonos is just another airport for them!
I have great respect for them and are the best and most friendly flightdeck crew i've ever had the chance to work and fly with.
Well done Sunwing crew
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Sandpit
Posts: 361
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Zero visibilty?
What are you talking about, there are limits for visibilty and contamination, this has nothing to do with turbulence and windshear. I see you have no idea about Samos. This place is really vicious and no place to play or brag about. 
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: UK
Posts: 163
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
recall,
Everybody is so touchy and jumpy on this forum. I'm not trying to start an argument. It was a statement of fact and i get my information from being down in the greek islands/cyprus/turkey 2 or 3 times a week and listening, watching as we all work together.
To put it another way - It must be quite a learning curve to be doing lots of CFU, HER, SMI, PFO, DLM etc etc without having the luxury of the other guy's experience to learn from as I did when I was new to the area. I'm sure that by the end of the season the Canadian boys and girls will have seen and worked out the nuances (of which there are many) of Greek Island flying.
I also would suggest if i were to take on their day job in the 'frozen wastes' it would take a while to get up to speed.
So - all that said - was it a C- reg 73 in Samos?
Cheers.
Everybody is so touchy and jumpy on this forum. I'm not trying to start an argument. It was a statement of fact and i get my information from being down in the greek islands/cyprus/turkey 2 or 3 times a week and listening, watching as we all work together.
To put it another way - It must be quite a learning curve to be doing lots of CFU, HER, SMI, PFO, DLM etc etc without having the luxury of the other guy's experience to learn from as I did when I was new to the area. I'm sure that by the end of the season the Canadian boys and girls will have seen and worked out the nuances (of which there are many) of Greek Island flying.
I also would suggest if i were to take on their day job in the 'frozen wastes' it would take a while to get up to speed.
So - all that said - was it a C- reg 73 in Samos?
Cheers.
