Ryanair fire at Stansted
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I think all sensible people will agree that in the past 12 months we have seen too much death in our skies as a result of crashes. Whatever the problem its always 'better to be safe than sorry' I congratulate the flight crew for reacting so quickly as, as a pax I fly, and place my life in the hands of the 2 guys up front and also take the LDY - STN route often.
What ever your faith may be, take a moment to remember those who were not so lucky this year and in years gone by.
What ever your faith may be, take a moment to remember those who were not so lucky this year and in years gone by.
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What has everybody got against the First Officer? Nowhere does it say he "freaked". Presumably both crew were aboard, and the captain probably asked the F.O. to get the radio call out while he dealt with cabincrew/pax liason. As a captain myself, in a case like this I would want the F.O. to make damn sure the ground services knew there was potentially a real problem. The "Joe Cool" radio call is DANGEROUS in this situation.
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OK, I'm going to hold my hands up and say that I had a similar incident several years ago at PMI.
I was the FO at the time on an A320. Whilst on stand and being recatered, fuelled etc. the Captain was elsewhere - I believe in the jetty, but it doesn't matter. Whilst I was doing some paperwork on the flightdeck I noticed thick black smoke drifting past the windshield. I opened the DV window to see the source and it appeared to be coming from the back of our aircraft. I put out a Mayday call (the only Mayday I've ever made) then went into the cabin and got the girls and cleaners off via the jetty at the front of the a/c. I went outside to find the fire brigade already arriving on scene.
It transpired that a catering truck at the back of the a/c was the source. Apparently in some failures of a diesel engine they can start feeding off their own sump oil - it will do this until the engine seizes and the engine cannot be shutdown by normal means. This produces a large amount of smoke and there is a significant risk of fire. Anyway, the truck was towed away from our a/c and left until the engine seized and stopped - no damage to our a/c.
I fully support what the FO in the Stansted incident did - his actions should not be criticised in any way - IMHO. If anyone has ever seen (even the edited version of) the videos of the Bradford City football disaster you will appreciate the rapidity with which fire can spread - you cannot out run it!
Please don't underestimate the danger of fire anywhere near an a/c - it is my/our worst nightmare!
ATB
Underdog
(edited for typo)
[This message has been edited by Underdog (edited 06 July 2001).]
I was the FO at the time on an A320. Whilst on stand and being recatered, fuelled etc. the Captain was elsewhere - I believe in the jetty, but it doesn't matter. Whilst I was doing some paperwork on the flightdeck I noticed thick black smoke drifting past the windshield. I opened the DV window to see the source and it appeared to be coming from the back of our aircraft. I put out a Mayday call (the only Mayday I've ever made) then went into the cabin and got the girls and cleaners off via the jetty at the front of the a/c. I went outside to find the fire brigade already arriving on scene.
It transpired that a catering truck at the back of the a/c was the source. Apparently in some failures of a diesel engine they can start feeding off their own sump oil - it will do this until the engine seizes and the engine cannot be shutdown by normal means. This produces a large amount of smoke and there is a significant risk of fire. Anyway, the truck was towed away from our a/c and left until the engine seized and stopped - no damage to our a/c.
I fully support what the FO in the Stansted incident did - his actions should not be criticised in any way - IMHO. If anyone has ever seen (even the edited version of) the videos of the Bradford City football disaster you will appreciate the rapidity with which fire can spread - you cannot out run it!
Please don't underestimate the danger of fire anywhere near an a/c - it is my/our worst nightmare!
ATB
Underdog(edited for typo)
[This message has been edited by Underdog (edited 06 July 2001).]
