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it happened again:. . . .It has been reported that an Airbus A320-200 bound for Paris was forced to abort its takeoff from the Lisbon Airport earlier this month (07Feb) after being warned by the control tower it was on a taxiway.
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ATC should give T/O clearance only when aircraft are entering the runway and never before to crosscheck aircraft position. As posted before it can happen to anybody, and it's happened to SIA 747 in Taipei, AF 320 in Lisbon and probably in many other occasion. On the ground all our state of the art navigation equipment is more or less useless. We need ATC back up.
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Can't speak from experience about the Viagra, but I know that there's been warnings about its effects on blue/green colour distinction issued by aviation authorities to pilots and ATCOs. <img src="eek.gif" border="0">
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Just an other number:
Never needed the stuff but no guarantee that I won't need that in the future. The blue tint phenomena is pretty common knowledge. Perhaps you are too young to care about it. Go see your urologist and quiz him/her on this matter.
Never needed the stuff but no guarantee that I won't need that in the future. The blue tint phenomena is pretty common knowledge. Perhaps you are too young to care about it. Go see your urologist and quiz him/her on this matter.
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<<ATC should give T/O clearance only when aircraft are entering the runway and never before to crosscheck aircraft position. As posted before it can happen to anybody, and it's happened to SIA 747 in Taipei, AF 320 in Lisbon and probably in many other occasion. On the ground all our state of the art navigation equipment is more or less useless. We need ATC back up.>>
I agree with this statement to a point.
In my opinion, what we're really talking about here is basic airmanship: Keeping sloppiness out of the cockpit, but keeping it lose enough that nobody feels stifled; Maintaining situational awareness by following established procedures; Keeping our eyes *and ears* open!
Ironically enough (to me at least), just today another runway incursion was averted by an attentive tower controller at PANC.
I won't name the type of aircraft or the operator (but it's a turbo-jet based at PANC) and I personally witnessed that aircraft receive a take-off clearance to depart 6L from an intersection. I was landing 6R at the time. During our rollout I heard the tower cancel the takeoff clearance when she noticed the aircraft in position but pointed 180 degrees in the wrong direction (in other words it was poised to depart 24R!! Into arriving traffic!!!).
It's not enough to simply look outside. We have to *listen* and think.
I agree this can happen to anyone. We all get rushed. We all get preoccupied. But more often than not, there are red flags when we begin to lose situational awareness.
We have to pay attention to those red flags. It's not good enough to say, "Ah, that doesn't seem right," and then foolishly continue on our way hoping the discrepancy with reconcile itself.
I hate to sound condescending but if we'd just Stop Look Listen and Think I think we might save ourselves some gray hair
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I agree with this statement to a point.
In my opinion, what we're really talking about here is basic airmanship: Keeping sloppiness out of the cockpit, but keeping it lose enough that nobody feels stifled; Maintaining situational awareness by following established procedures; Keeping our eyes *and ears* open!
Ironically enough (to me at least), just today another runway incursion was averted by an attentive tower controller at PANC.
I won't name the type of aircraft or the operator (but it's a turbo-jet based at PANC) and I personally witnessed that aircraft receive a take-off clearance to depart 6L from an intersection. I was landing 6R at the time. During our rollout I heard the tower cancel the takeoff clearance when she noticed the aircraft in position but pointed 180 degrees in the wrong direction (in other words it was poised to depart 24R!! Into arriving traffic!!!).
It's not enough to simply look outside. We have to *listen* and think.
I agree this can happen to anyone. We all get rushed. We all get preoccupied. But more often than not, there are red flags when we begin to lose situational awareness.
We have to pay attention to those red flags. It's not good enough to say, "Ah, that doesn't seem right," and then foolishly continue on our way hoping the discrepancy with reconcile itself.
I hate to sound condescending but if we'd just Stop Look Listen and Think I think we might save ourselves some gray hair
[ 26 February 2002: Message edited by: zerozero ]</p>
