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Germanwings incident EIDW 27/5/08

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Old 29th May 2008, 15:21
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Germanwings incident EIDW 27/5/08

The daily departure called a MAYDAY just east of LIFFY and returned to Dublin as they had a Pressurisation issue and crew were on Oxygen(dizzy) and apparently the cabin masks did not drop and its reported some passengers were unconscious !
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Aircraft is grounded, by the Fire Station at Dublin
NOTHING in the news.....

very strange indeed...
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http://www.avherald.com/h?article=4076e82c&opt=0
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Read that article.............
and sayin the plane arrived at destination...dont see how that could be the case!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We did taxy pass the German AIRBUS grounded aircraft yesterday...
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Is there not a manual release for the cabin masks ?
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Originally Posted by HighLow
We did taxy pass the German AIRBUS grounded aircraft yesterday...
Sorry, poor wording on my part. Data tell me, that the flight arrived - I mistakenly wrote airplane (without ever noticing until I saw your comment following the referrals the article got).

Sounds like a replacement aircraft was dispatched to take the passengers to Cologne.

We are still waiting for comment from Germanwings.

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The pilot reported his pax were either asleep or unconcious. He did not share any other information with the tower or the fire crew. He was told by tower to stop anywhere he wanted so fire crew could assist but he did a long taxi route to his stand all the time still not sharing information with anyone. When fire crew did get on no one needed any treatment !!! Full check of plane, including full check of luggage by fire crew with gas detectors failed to find any problem. Irish AAIB investigating.
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Is there not a manual release for the cabin masks ?
There are tools for releasing O2 masks that havent dropped. The Cabin crew drill would have been to grab the nearest mask, put brake on any cart, and sit in a pax seat or on the floor and hold on in preparation for the emergency decent. Then await a PA from the flight deck to say it is ok to move around the cabin on portable O2.

Depending on the time available after that PA the crew might not have had the time to use the Manual Release Tool. However the portable O2 has 2 outlets, the 2nd to be use to administer O2 to any unconcious pax.
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Originally Posted by whoseroundisit
The pilot reported his pax were either asleep or unconcious. He did not share any other information with the tower or the fire crew. He was told by tower to stop anywhere he wanted so fire crew could assist but he did a long taxi route to his stand all the time still not sharing information with anyone. When fire crew did get on no one needed any treatment !!! Full check of plane, including full check of luggage by fire crew with gas detectors failed to find any problem. Irish AAIB investigating.
Germanwings does not confirm the event.

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Slight Thread Creep ....

Are Cabin Crew trained to recognise the symptoms/onset of hypoxia?

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Yes we are... and it would be covered each year in SEP recurrent training.
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So, another life support system failure where we all hold our breath so long for the final report that everyone forgets how serious it is?
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Thanks CallBell!

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Let me get this straight,
GERMANWINGS say that this incident never took place???
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Originally Posted by HighLow
Let me get this straight,
GERMANWINGS say that this incident never took place???
Bulls**t.

The BFU has opened a Preliminary Report under 6X002-08
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IFIXPLANES,
I know its BULL****
I have seen the aircraft and heard the incident on ATC


GermanWings, a bit of ass covering me thinks
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Originally Posted by HighLow
Let me get this straight,
GERMANWINGS say that this incident never took place???
Affirmative, they did say so in their first statment.

When I confronted them with additional facts we had received, they still denied, that the incident happened as described, but now confirm, that the airplane returned to Dublin due to technical problems, but still gave no details whatsoever.

http://avherald.com/h?article=4076e82c/0000

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Old 31st May 2008, 14:55
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There seems to be alot more going on here than the company are telling us. It will be interesting once the report is published....

If it is indeed that the masks did NOT drop as the A/C passed FL200, and passengers did pass out....its amazing how the irish media up to this point have not picked up on this story.

Watch this space...
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One of the engineer's at Dublin was saying that fumes were coming from the air vents into the cabin, something about oil burning from the APU some how getting into the ventitation system ?

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Seemed to be an odour problem rather than a pressurization problem.
That's why the cabin masks did not deploy.
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