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Who did heard about this incident. I would be very happy to have some more details, for example what they did against this fire, what was in fire, etc.
May 10, 2008 - Bathroom Fire Forces Flight To Make Emergency Landing At Fargo Airport; FBI Investigating
FARGO, North Dakota (USA) -- The FBI is investigating the cause of a bathroom fire that forced a Compass Airlines jet to make an emergency landing Wednesday at Fargo’s Hector International Airport.
None of the 69 passengers aboard the 76-seat jet was injured when it landed at 10:44 p.m. without incident, Northwest Airlines spokesman Paul Skrbec said.
Compass Airlines is a subsidiary of Northwest.
The airplane, an Embraer 175, had been headed from Minneapolis-St. Paul to Regina, Saskatchewan.
Passengers were held in Hector Airport’s departure lounge and interviewed by the FBI and Fargo police, said Shawn Dobberstein, executive director of the airport.
After being interviewed, passengers were allowed to reclaim their luggage. Some stayed at the airport, while others went to hotels or restaurants and were provided shuttle service back to the airport, Dobberstein said.
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Fire on Regina-bound plane forces emergency landing; Fire broke out in plane's restroom
REGINA, Canada -- From 30,000 feet to touchdown in eight minutes.
That's what 72 frightened passengers and four crew members endured after a fire broke out on board Compass Airlines flight 2040 en route to Regina on Wednesday night. The Embraer 175 jet originated in Minneapolis, Minn. and was in the vicinity of Fargo, N.D. when a fire broke out in a bathroom on board.
Dale Dirksen from Caronport had been dozing on the flight when he heard the beeping sound of a smoke alarm and opened his eyes to find the woman in the next seat braced in the crash position.
"I heard the commotion, turned around. (There was) a lot of smoke, a lot of people looking really terrified. The next thing you know, the last probably eight or nine rows were running to the front of the plane because of the smoke. Next thing you know they were all sitting in the laps of the people up front ... (A flight attendant) came on (the intercom) and said, 'Electrical fire and we're going to be making an emergency landing,'" Dirksen recalled after arriving safely in Regina on Thursday.
The flight landed at Hector International Airport in Fargo without incident but was met by emergency crews on the tarmac. No passengers or crew were injured during the incident.
Brian McCusker said he was first alerted that something was wrong when he saw a flight attendant run to the back of the plane with a fire extinguisher.
"The people from the back were getting directed to the front. I was right at the very front so people were put on the floor in front of me. They asked for people to take kids and put them on their laps and put seat belts on them,'" McCusker recalled.
Corry Billings from Yorkton explained the flight crew took charge of the emergent situation.
"One of the attendants had on big headgear or something and was yelling and running up and down the aisle. Some people were getting up (to help) and they were yelled at and (told) to sit down, put their seat belts on, stay sitting ... We just kept declining fast. I was thankful the pilot, he was great. He went right down, he got us there quick," said Billings.
During the frantic situation, McCusker said people weren't necessarily panicked but there was a lot of crying among the passengers.
"I've never been so scared in my life," he said.
That fear was also shared by Billings.
"I was just praying and asking God to protect us," she said.
Relief came a short time later when McCusker looked out the window beside him and saw Fargo's lights below, along with the lights lining the airport runway. When the passengers and crew landed and made it into the airport, they were interviewed by local police and FBI agents, who were involved since the incident occurred over state lines and due to terrorism concerns.
Once the passengers were through with the FBI around 3:30 a.m., they were taken to a hotel for the night. But it was a very short night -- Dirksen said he had to set his alarm for 5:30 a.m. in order to catch the flight back to Minneapolis, where passengers then caught a plane to Regina on Thursday.
After landing, Dirksen checked a flight tracker Web site that showed the Compass jet had actually flown past Fargo and turned back to make the emergency landing.
"They told us (Thursday morning) that we went from 30,000 feet to touchdown in eight minutes, which is pretty much a dive. It was something, you know. I normally have a lot of problems with motion sickness, but nothing. I think maybe adrenaline cuts in and I just didn't feel it," said Dirksen.
"The woman next to me, I think, was going to have a heart attack. I didn't feel this but I looked at her and I said, 'It's going to be OK.' I didn't think it was going to be OK, I just felt like, 'Well that's probably the right thing to say.'"
Billings said the passengers were offered two $100 vouchers for travel with Northwest Airlines -- of which Compass Airlines is a wholly owned subsidiary -- which must be used separately.
However, she wasn't pleased to hear one passenger was bumped up to first class for a flight back to Minneapolis early Thursday morning and was given a round-trip ticket for anywhere in North America. She is planning to complain to Northwest about the situation.
"I just think it's unfair (and) too bad we can't all get the same treatment as we all went through it," she said. "We all had to wait until 3 in the morning standing in line, getting processed and get an hour of sleep at the hotel and then up again and have to go through it all."
May 10, 2008 - Bathroom Fire Forces Flight To Make Emergency Landing At Fargo Airport; FBI Investigating
FARGO, North Dakota (USA) -- The FBI is investigating the cause of a bathroom fire that forced a Compass Airlines jet to make an emergency landing Wednesday at Fargo’s Hector International Airport.
None of the 69 passengers aboard the 76-seat jet was injured when it landed at 10:44 p.m. without incident, Northwest Airlines spokesman Paul Skrbec said.
Compass Airlines is a subsidiary of Northwest.
The airplane, an Embraer 175, had been headed from Minneapolis-St. Paul to Regina, Saskatchewan.
Passengers were held in Hector Airport’s departure lounge and interviewed by the FBI and Fargo police, said Shawn Dobberstein, executive director of the airport.
After being interviewed, passengers were allowed to reclaim their luggage. Some stayed at the airport, while others went to hotels or restaurants and were provided shuttle service back to the airport, Dobberstein said.
ADDITIONAL STORY INFORMATION :
Fire on Regina-bound plane forces emergency landing; Fire broke out in plane's restroom
REGINA, Canada -- From 30,000 feet to touchdown in eight minutes.
That's what 72 frightened passengers and four crew members endured after a fire broke out on board Compass Airlines flight 2040 en route to Regina on Wednesday night. The Embraer 175 jet originated in Minneapolis, Minn. and was in the vicinity of Fargo, N.D. when a fire broke out in a bathroom on board.
Dale Dirksen from Caronport had been dozing on the flight when he heard the beeping sound of a smoke alarm and opened his eyes to find the woman in the next seat braced in the crash position.
"I heard the commotion, turned around. (There was) a lot of smoke, a lot of people looking really terrified. The next thing you know, the last probably eight or nine rows were running to the front of the plane because of the smoke. Next thing you know they were all sitting in the laps of the people up front ... (A flight attendant) came on (the intercom) and said, 'Electrical fire and we're going to be making an emergency landing,'" Dirksen recalled after arriving safely in Regina on Thursday.
The flight landed at Hector International Airport in Fargo without incident but was met by emergency crews on the tarmac. No passengers or crew were injured during the incident.
Brian McCusker said he was first alerted that something was wrong when he saw a flight attendant run to the back of the plane with a fire extinguisher.
"The people from the back were getting directed to the front. I was right at the very front so people were put on the floor in front of me. They asked for people to take kids and put them on their laps and put seat belts on them,'" McCusker recalled.
Corry Billings from Yorkton explained the flight crew took charge of the emergent situation.
"One of the attendants had on big headgear or something and was yelling and running up and down the aisle. Some people were getting up (to help) and they were yelled at and (told) to sit down, put their seat belts on, stay sitting ... We just kept declining fast. I was thankful the pilot, he was great. He went right down, he got us there quick," said Billings.
During the frantic situation, McCusker said people weren't necessarily panicked but there was a lot of crying among the passengers.
"I've never been so scared in my life," he said.
That fear was also shared by Billings.
"I was just praying and asking God to protect us," she said.
Relief came a short time later when McCusker looked out the window beside him and saw Fargo's lights below, along with the lights lining the airport runway. When the passengers and crew landed and made it into the airport, they were interviewed by local police and FBI agents, who were involved since the incident occurred over state lines and due to terrorism concerns.
Once the passengers were through with the FBI around 3:30 a.m., they were taken to a hotel for the night. But it was a very short night -- Dirksen said he had to set his alarm for 5:30 a.m. in order to catch the flight back to Minneapolis, where passengers then caught a plane to Regina on Thursday.
After landing, Dirksen checked a flight tracker Web site that showed the Compass jet had actually flown past Fargo and turned back to make the emergency landing.
"They told us (Thursday morning) that we went from 30,000 feet to touchdown in eight minutes, which is pretty much a dive. It was something, you know. I normally have a lot of problems with motion sickness, but nothing. I think maybe adrenaline cuts in and I just didn't feel it," said Dirksen.
"The woman next to me, I think, was going to have a heart attack. I didn't feel this but I looked at her and I said, 'It's going to be OK.' I didn't think it was going to be OK, I just felt like, 'Well that's probably the right thing to say.'"
Billings said the passengers were offered two $100 vouchers for travel with Northwest Airlines -- of which Compass Airlines is a wholly owned subsidiary -- which must be used separately.
However, she wasn't pleased to hear one passenger was bumped up to first class for a flight back to Minneapolis early Thursday morning and was given a round-trip ticket for anywhere in North America. She is planning to complain to Northwest about the situation.
"I just think it's unfair (and) too bad we can't all get the same treatment as we all went through it," she said. "We all had to wait until 3 in the morning standing in line, getting processed and get an hour of sleep at the hotel and then up again and have to go through it all."
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Thank goodness all got off safely!!!
We never want to see another incident like this one
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Canada_Flight_797
We never want to see another incident like this one
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Canada_Flight_797
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During the frantic situation, McCusker said people weren't necessarily panicked but there was a lot of crying among the passengers.
"I've never been so scared in my life," he said.
That fear was also shared by Billings.
"I was just praying and asking God to protect us," she said.
"I've never been so scared in my life," he said.
That fear was also shared by Billings.
"I was just praying and asking God to protect us," she said.
Ahhh PPrune... at least you're consistent....
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Fire in the lavatory
From the local Minneapolis TV news:
"A 19-year-old flight attendant is accused of setting a fire aboard a commercial airplane that was forced to make an emergency landing in Fargo..."
"Officials say the Compass Airlines flight from Minneapolis to Saskatchewan landed safely in Fargo on May 7, after smoke begin to fill the back of the plane. Court documents say Rojas told authorities he was upset at the airline for making him work that route".
Plonker..............
"A 19-year-old flight attendant is accused of setting a fire aboard a commercial airplane that was forced to make an emergency landing in Fargo..."
"Officials say the Compass Airlines flight from Minneapolis to Saskatchewan landed safely in Fargo on May 7, after smoke begin to fill the back of the plane. Court documents say Rojas told authorities he was upset at the airline for making him work that route".
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Court documents say Rojas told authorities he was upset at the airline for making him work that route".
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These things happen, sometimes more than once...
From: http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=96537
From: http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=96537
Flight Attendant Arrested (Again) for Inflight Fire
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This guy's earlier arrest was reported here:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...&threadid=2002
Hope he finds another line of work (like maybe making big rocks into little ones).
Of course, he is presumed innocent until proven guilty etc., etc., etc...
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Ex-flight attendant indicted in fire on ComAir flight
Man also had been accused of terror-threat call to AirTran
By BILL RANKIN
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
When a ComAir commuter jet made an unscheduled landing three months ago in Rome, Ga., flight officials cited a smoky odor that had been detected in the cabin.
On Thursday, a federal grand jury in Atlanta charged then-ComAir flight attendant Turhan Jamar Lamons with trying to set the plane on fire. The federal indictment accuses Lamons of trying to "damage, destroy, disable and wreck" the May 8 ComAir flight carrying 48 passengers from Atlanta to Huntsville, Ala.
What ComAir officials did not know at the time of the emergency landing was that Lamons was under indictment in Clayton County for making a terroristic threat against an AirTran Airways flight one week after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.
In the Clayton County case, Lamons, then a rookie flight attendant for AirTran, was charged with calling in a bomb threat to a Sept. 18, 2001, flight from Atlanta to Boston. "All passengers on Flight 278 are going to die," was all the caller said to an AirTran gate attendant before hanging up.
After the call was made, the plane was evacuated and searched.
Lamons made the call because his request for a day off had been turned down and he didn't want to fly, Atlanta police said after Lamons was arrested.
Although a Clayton County magistrate dismissed the terroristic threat charge against Lamons in October 2001, the Clayton district attorney's office continued investigating and obtained an indictment against Lamons for the AirTran incident in April.
Lamons, 23, of Morrow, was hired by ComAir, a Delta subsidiary, in August 2002.
Lamons' lawyer, Robert Mack of Jonesboro, said his client has pleaded not guilty to the Clayton charges. "I have no idea why they've charged him with that," the lawyer said.
Mack said he was unaware of the federal indictment but knew his client was under investigation for the ComAir flight incident.
ComAir spokesman Nick Miller said Thursday that ComAir continuously reviews its employee applicant screening programs, with help from the Transportation Security Administration and the FBI.
"We conducted a very, very stringent review in the aftermath of the May 8 incident" and additional enhancements have been made, Miller said, including the airline's rechecking the backgrounds of all its 5,500 employees.
Last year, all airline and airport employees with free access to the secure part of airports had to send their fingerprints to the FBI and submit to a background check. Not all airline employees are required to have a security badge.
The FBI sends employers the full criminal history of each employee or candidate. It is up to the employer to decide how to respond to the information, said Carter Morris of the American Association of Airport Executives.
Morris said an indictment might not cause a job candidate to be disqualified.
Only convictions for certain felonies, such as murder, espionage, treason, or conveying false information or threats would automatically disqualify the employee from having access to secure parts of the airport. If there's no conviction for one of those felonies, then the employee is allowed to have a security badge.
Miller would not say if Lamons had a security badge, but said that ComAir flight attendants "go through all federally mandated background checks that all other airline employees do."
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/met.../18flight.html
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This guy's earlier arrest was reported here:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...&threadid=2002
Hope he finds another line of work (like maybe making big rocks into little ones).
Of course, he is presumed innocent until proven guilty etc., etc., etc...
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Ex-flight attendant indicted in fire on ComAir flight
Man also had been accused of terror-threat call to AirTran
By BILL RANKIN
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
When a ComAir commuter jet made an unscheduled landing three months ago in Rome, Ga., flight officials cited a smoky odor that had been detected in the cabin.
On Thursday, a federal grand jury in Atlanta charged then-ComAir flight attendant Turhan Jamar Lamons with trying to set the plane on fire. The federal indictment accuses Lamons of trying to "damage, destroy, disable and wreck" the May 8 ComAir flight carrying 48 passengers from Atlanta to Huntsville, Ala.
What ComAir officials did not know at the time of the emergency landing was that Lamons was under indictment in Clayton County for making a terroristic threat against an AirTran Airways flight one week after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.
In the Clayton County case, Lamons, then a rookie flight attendant for AirTran, was charged with calling in a bomb threat to a Sept. 18, 2001, flight from Atlanta to Boston. "All passengers on Flight 278 are going to die," was all the caller said to an AirTran gate attendant before hanging up.
After the call was made, the plane was evacuated and searched.
Lamons made the call because his request for a day off had been turned down and he didn't want to fly, Atlanta police said after Lamons was arrested.
Although a Clayton County magistrate dismissed the terroristic threat charge against Lamons in October 2001, the Clayton district attorney's office continued investigating and obtained an indictment against Lamons for the AirTran incident in April.
Lamons, 23, of Morrow, was hired by ComAir, a Delta subsidiary, in August 2002.
Lamons' lawyer, Robert Mack of Jonesboro, said his client has pleaded not guilty to the Clayton charges. "I have no idea why they've charged him with that," the lawyer said.
Mack said he was unaware of the federal indictment but knew his client was under investigation for the ComAir flight incident.
ComAir spokesman Nick Miller said Thursday that ComAir continuously reviews its employee applicant screening programs, with help from the Transportation Security Administration and the FBI.
"We conducted a very, very stringent review in the aftermath of the May 8 incident" and additional enhancements have been made, Miller said, including the airline's rechecking the backgrounds of all its 5,500 employees.
Last year, all airline and airport employees with free access to the secure part of airports had to send their fingerprints to the FBI and submit to a background check. Not all airline employees are required to have a security badge.
The FBI sends employers the full criminal history of each employee or candidate. It is up to the employer to decide how to respond to the information, said Carter Morris of the American Association of Airport Executives.
Morris said an indictment might not cause a job candidate to be disqualified.
Only convictions for certain felonies, such as murder, espionage, treason, or conveying false information or threats would automatically disqualify the employee from having access to secure parts of the airport. If there's no conviction for one of those felonies, then the employee is allowed to have a security badge.
Miller would not say if Lamons had a security badge, but said that ComAir flight attendants "go through all federally mandated background checks that all other airline employees do."
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/met.../18flight.html
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Security Checks?
Well I thought it can only happen in the third world - now I ave been shown that even in the developed world the people doing security and backround checks on airline personnel and prospective personnel are failing big time.
Can somebody please explain why:
1. If I want to do simulator training in the USA I get screened and checked and screened again?
2. If a moron with a criminal history of intent to destroy commercial airliners in flight want to work as a cabin attendant - they get the job?
Hans
Can somebody please explain why:
1. If I want to do simulator training in the USA I get screened and checked and screened again?
2. If a moron with a criminal history of intent to destroy commercial airliners in flight want to work as a cabin attendant - they get the job?
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The FBI believes Rojas was able to get a cigarette lighter through airport security.
I've been to Regina. It's not that bad
I've been to Regina. It's not that bad
