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Balair out of business?

Old 10th Jul 2001, 14:45
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And now I read that Hotelplan and Swissair group have reached a conclusion that Crossair would operate Hotelplan's 757-200ERs in full Balair livery over the next couple of years and that Swissair would provide the long haul solution (we saw three years ago what came out: the total mess!!!).

So if I understand the whole thing it means: don't work hard. First it does not count at all, second, they will get you the financial result they think you deserve by dumping all superflous cost on you, and third, as you have been so loyal to them, they kick you out.

Somehow that is not the Swiss working culture that brought us through the last 200 years, but apparently we don't need it anymore.

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Old 11th Jul 2001, 02:45
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And just read that LX will have need 24 pilots and 60 F/As for the 757 ops. Wonder if the whole thing is logical ( ) :
- LX will have to have those pilots rated.
- BB has 757 rated SR pilots.
- SR has too many pilots.
- SR pilots are too expensive for BB ops.
- What is SR gonna do with those returning pilots.
- Where is LX gonna find those additional pilots (heard actual requirement is for 500 (!!!) pilots.

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Old 11th Jul 2001, 12:05
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Well, things never were logical with Balair. For some reason everybody believes that the charter business is such an easy thing to do. And as soon as they get into it, they discover that is's painfully hard, actually as hard as the freight business. You cannot overcome problems by introducing some more glamour into the C-class cabin, or by offerring reduced F-class rates. You actually have to solve the problem, fast, reliable and with knowledge.

I think we will see the times now that the present BB guys will be leased (for some good money) by LX for the new LXBB, with SR paying the difference.

How about giving BB the chance it would deserve? Oh, I forget, then you would have to admit that you didn't know a thing and were plain stupid.
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Old 11th Jul 2001, 13:54
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...with SR paying the difference?
With what money? If they don't cr*p out by the Sabena lawsuit, than alone the 500 Mio. CHF loss in flight ops (half year 2001) will take the winds out of their sail.

Should SR indeed go down, they will rip a hugh hole into aviation, scheduled and charter, in central Europe as they have their fingers in too many ops.
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Old 12th Jul 2001, 00:39
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Oh well, tomorrow 12th of July is gonna be another big news day for the whole of Swissair Group. I can sense some tension amongst members
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Old 12th Jul 2001, 10:51
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All the news is being accompanied by approx. 500 -1000 Sabena demonstrators. Should get interesting!
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Old 12th Jul 2001, 20:54
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Belgians are not what they used to be. According to eye wittnesses there were no more than a 250.

It was rather laughable...!
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Old 12th Jul 2001, 22:48
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And the news are?...
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Old 13th Jul 2001, 23:20
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Mindthegap. Ehhhh, well, ehhhh, the news are as usual, well not much, really.

Todays papers relate the news conference of yesterday and the lack of real decisions. SR's Atraxis might be merged with LH computer services, etc, etc. No news concerning flight ops, but that SR and LX are to work more hand in hand...
SR management promised some news, but haven't seen any yet.
A few hundreds union reps of SN showed up and were given exactly 5 minutes of precious SR management time.
As for the title of this thread, BB, no news at all.

Despite all this, investors and money experts looked at all this and took it as good news (???????????). Shares have gone up accordingly

Looks like Dr. Corti takes a stroll on eggs
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