Ground Collision At London City This Morning.
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Ground Collision At London City This Morning - 21/04/08
People talking about a ground collision at City this AM?
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The aircraft involved were a BA CityFlyer RJ100, registered G-BZAT, and Lufthansa CityLine RJ85 registered D-AVRJ.
Only the Lufthansa aircraft bound for Munich, had passengers on board. The BA Jet was parked, due to operate the service to Frankfurt.
Only the Lufthansa aircraft bound for Munich, had passengers on board. The BA Jet was parked, due to operate the service to Frankfurt.
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Lufthansa RJ85 D-AVRJ is sitting near the localiser where the broken Swiss RJ100 was sitting ages ago, BA RJ100G-BZAT was towed from Stand 11 to remote Stand 13 this afternoon. Nothing obviously hanging off....
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This is true, I have just looked at sound ground charts. Turning is full lock to the right with the lead off line. Of course, if this isn't followed then the wings may hit.
LCY does have push back stands are these push back stands?
LCY does have push back stands are these push back stands?
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Standard procedure is to taxi off all stands, aircraft are however pushed back onto Stands 12,13 and 14, so *possibly* being pushed onto Stand 12 the Lufthansa may have hit the BA which was on Stand 11.
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Unbelievable if that's what happened. That kind of push-back is a three man job I think, including the driver, and I can't see how it could fail with three. I could see opportunity for failure with driver plus one ...
Understaffed in a busy period? Wouldn't be the first time, I'm sure.
Understaffed in a busy period? Wouldn't be the first time, I'm sure.
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The LH was under own power coming off of stand. Marshallers stopped the aircraft when they noticed the tail getting unusually close to the tail of the BA on the next stand. Unfortunately it was fractionally too late and the LH tail ended up wedged underneath the BA tail.
Thankfully superficial damage to both and both aircraft declared serviceable later in the day.
Thankfully superficial damage to both and both aircraft declared serviceable later in the day.
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Originally Posted by FBOman
The LH was under own power coming off of stand. Marshallers stopped the aircraft when they noticed the tail getting unusually close to the tail of the BA on the next stand.
At LCY I thought all aircraft stand diagonally with their tails closest to the buildings with the service road between the tails and the building as the buffer, or at least they used to...
The manoeuvre to get them lined up like that after they arrive on stand involved two marshallers, one to bring the ac on stand and turn it through 135 degrees, and the second to pick it up in the turn, stop it on the line and chock it. Stand 11 is the tiny one on the corner where the road goes around the old building, is it not? Is it regularly used for RJs?
Anyway, on departure I thought all aircraft taxied forward 5 metres own discretion straight off across the line onto the active area? No scope for clashed tails in that?
The involvement of "marshallers" is interesting because aircraft departing from stand used not to be under any marshalling control. Was this an example where the LH had made one attempt to arrive on stand and was directed by the marshaller to go back to the taxyway and try again?
Or did "marshallers" (not marshalling) just observe something odd and start windmilling?
None of the above? Well, you have to concede it all conjures scenarios as cluttered as those in my garden shed as the mower is extracated for the first cut of spring
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Yep I saw these two airplanes sitting next to eachother with their tails touching eachother.
5Papa,
I'm sorry, but this is still England and you claim to be at LCY, so please, its aeroplanes. (I can forgive the use of the word "Yep").
Suzy.
(Seemingly a one girl campaign for the protection of the English language.)