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Saudia B 747 Nose gear Collapse at Kuala Lumpur

Old 24th Aug 2001, 12:42
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Question Saudia B 747 Nose gear Collapse at Kuala Lumpur

I've just had a photo faxed to me by our Company Agent in Kuala Lumpur. It shows a Saudia B 747 with the section smashed in and the forward section of the the fuselage sitting on the tarmac, the nose gear apparently collapsed. The agent said it happened at K.L. last night, and yet nothing on C.N.N. B.B.C. or any other news service.
Was there an incident concerning a Saudia B 747 at K.L. last night or am I on the end of a "wind - up" ?
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Old 24th Aug 2001, 14:01
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Nope, it really happened - it was being taxied to the departure gate from the maintenance area with just four crew and a couple of staff from the handling agents on board and it went into a drainage ditch.

Extensive damage to the aircraft is reported.
 
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From the picture on Reuters, damage to the nose section looks extensive with about a 20 degree kink. Could be expensive (to my untrained eye it looks like a -300) but very lucky indeed that there were no passengers onboard at the time.
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There's a Malaysian report saying it weighed 800 tonnes
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Looks like you'll be paying out as a TCL on this one, BFU!!



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Tis indeed a 300 with rollers. Not ex-CX by any chance although unlikley as 5 went to PIA and the 6th (HON) went to California.Who else had 300's with rollers?
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come to think of it I think QF has some 300's with rollers but I can't think of any others I've seen. BA went straight to the 400 from the 200 me thinks.
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Do you mean a CTL?
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Not one of ours Guv

QF have 300's with Rollers, PIA have 5 as well and CX have one in storage.
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Full story and pics Annanova
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Onions - yes ... my fingers are a bit dyslexic!
 
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How fast were they taxying? Looks like one hell of a bang.
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Ten Saudi Arabian Airlines technical experts arrived here from Jeddah today to access the damage on its aircraft SV 3830, a Boeing 747-300 which nose-dived into a five-meter-wide monsoon drain last night. The experts, who arrived at the Kuala Lumpur International Airport at 4.30pm, are also scheduled discuss with airport authorities on how to pull out the plane.

Malaysia Airports (Sepang) Sdn Bhd flight operation center head Hamid Awang said the technical experts had informed Boeing of the mishap and the aircraft manufacturer was also scheduled to send its expert team. This morning, Malaysia Airports convened a meeting to determine the cause of the incident and measures to recover the aircraft. The incident happened just in front of Airport Rescue Service Station (AFRS) about 10.08pm when the aircraft was being piloted out from the maintenance hangar medivac to the terminal building.

Hamid told a Press conference at KLIA that the pilot lost control and could not turn right, resulting in the aircraft over-shooting a junction and resting on a five-meter-wide monsoon drain. The Runway Two was temporarily closed last night after cordoning off the entire site where the incident happened. But this morning, after our initial investigation, the runway was open and in operation, he added.

Asked whether Malaysia Airports had done its own assessment of the damage and cause of the incident, Hamid said it had not done so as it was waiting the arrival of technical experts from Jeddah. "We will conduct our formal inquiry. The course of action to be taken, including determining the extend of damage, the loss incurred and the recovery measures will be discussed and decided in a meeting with the (Saudi Arabian) technical experts," he added.

The aircraft had landed at the airport at 5.50pm from Jeddah yesterday. It was developing a technical problem with its third engine and was towed to the maintenance hangar medivac for necessary repair. The repair was completed at around 10pm, and the mishap occurred when it was being piloted to the terminal building.

Hamid said on seeing that the aircraft could not be controlled, the AFRS vehicles rushed out to its rescue immediately. " The aircraft incurred damages but the six crew members on board escaped injuries. The aircraft was scheduled to depart to Jeddah with 355 passengers."

Hamid said due to the mishap, the passengers, mostly Malaysians and Indonesians on their Ummrah journey, had to be transferred to a number of hotels. The stranded passengers left for Jeddah, this evening on the special aircraft which had earlier brought in the Saudi Arabian technical experts.

Last night, Malaysia Airports (Sepang) Sdn Bhd general manager Abd Hamid Mohd Ali said he was satisfied with the response time by the rescue units from the AFRS that took only several seconds to reach the scene. "A few officers at the control tower who saw that the aircraft in trouble had instantly hit the crash bell alarm to alert the nearby sub fire station at the airport,' he added. Other personnel from several agencies, he added, also arrived few minutes later. They included the KLIA Fire and Rescue Department, the police, KLIA Health unit and seven personnel from the KLIA police crime division.
Incidentally, the aircraft in the background of the pix is another write-off: MAS' A330 9M-MKB which had a chemical spill.
 
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looks like a write off.
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<looks like a write off.>

You have obviously never seen a Boeing field repair team in action. These men of magic will repair that machine no problem I will wager. Won't be cheap though. Some may remember a mamoth undertaking by such a team at Anchorage(?) many years ago when a B747 slid down an embankment. The Boeing team built a polythene igloo around the 747 and carried out very extensive repairs. If memory serves, then that particular operation was only just this side of being a write off but apparently still fincially viable. That is only one example, there are hundreds I think you will find.
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By an uncanny coincidence, Airboeing - there's an article on the Anchorage JAL 747 rebuild in the current edition of Airliners magazine - along with other interesting articles on MEA and the final flight of the last Standard VC10 by the RAF. 3.25 from all good newsagents!!
 
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Those same guys managed to get QANTAS out of a difficult situation when they rebuilt QF 1 (Bangkok), which by anyones judgement was writeoff. However, for the retention of the aura of not having lost a jet hull, a price was paid, and those guys worked their magic. Now QANTAS is still the worlds safest airline.
Aren't they??
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Old 25th Aug 2001, 02:11
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Question please. Was this aircraft being taxied by a pilot, an enginer or was it being towed. The Malaysian press release seems to suggest a pilot was involved?
 
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SV have a bunch of B743s with Rolls engines and have had since I first got sand between my toes in 1994.
 
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My money is on number 2.

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Your toes are misleading you, 1st one was delivered in 1985.
23262 616 B747-368 RB211-524D4 07/12/85 SAUDI ARABIAN AIRLINES HZ-AIK, the last one was delivered: 23271 652 B747-368 RB211-524D4 11/10/86 SAUDI ARABIAN AIRLINES HZ-AIT

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