mandatory retirement age for pilots

[offa]

"How about ...

Single never married ==== = Retire Age 55
One ex wife kids etc ===== Retire Age 65
More than 3 ex wives ===== Retire Age 75
kids,sundry lawyers etc"

Wonderful idea but isn't there a category missing? or does one wife at retirement not exist in the aviation world?

[CitationUltra]

Bravo! Bravo! You are a perfect example of why there should be no arbitrary mandatory retirement age.

[rick3333331]

Lufthansa pilots age 60

Need some help...Three Lufthansa pilots lost their case of age discrimination but it was my understanding that the decision was being appealed . Is this appeal been heard and what was the outcome ?? Did they get their flying jobs back ?? If there is a link to the decision or any on going news ..it would be appreciated.

[BenThere]

I think any arbitrary age limit is wrong, and setting an age so as to keep younger pilots' opportunities moving smartly is wrong on several counts.

The pertinent questions are:

Can he pass the physical?

Can he pass the check ride?

I've geared my life, plans, hopes and finances around retiring at 60 for so long, the thought of remaining any time beyond that is not appealing. I'll be gone. But I defend those who wish to stick around as long as they are able and willing.

We have plenty of external means of determining when it's mandatory to hang it up, such as the check airman and flight doc. Could be time at 60, could be 80, could be 40.

[411A]

A look in the corporate jet area will provide for guideance, and this also includes flying biz jets under 14CFR135 in the USA...

No age restriction, period.
I personally know corporate jet Captains who still fly into their early 70's...and yes, they do so because they actually like it, unlike many younger guys who apparantly can't wait to retire.

Large jets?
Oh yes, these too.
For example, the LosAngeles Dodgers baseball team had a Boeing 720 for a very long time, flown by one Captain for the entire period they owned the airplane...when he retired, they sold it, as they thought so highly of his expertise.
Fred retired at 76.

So, all you younger pilots out there...stay away from my LHS for awhile...your turn will come, some day.

[beamer]

Checked into a LGW hotel the other day and ahead of me were an American crew (complete with leather jackets ) - all three must have been way way over sixty and even for allowing for the fact that they had just flown across the pond (as had I) I would not like to look like that and still be working !

[Wino]

Checked into a LGW hotel the other day and ahead of me were an American crew (complete with leather jackets ) - all three must have been way way over sixty and even for allowing for the fact that they had just flown across the pond (as had I) I would not like to look like that and still be working !

They couldn't be any older than 60.5 years of age. American never allowed pilots to go back to the flight engineer panel when we had FEs, and had no FE equipt aircraft for the last 5 years anyway. The change in the law did not allow a return to the airline if you had already retired. So The OLDEST these guys could be be is 60.5 years old. The Guys that I have seen so far that have stayed past 60 LOOKED like they were past 70.

I don't know how old the guys in question were you saw, but I guarantee when some of these guys start pushing 65 they are gonna look like Kieth Richards (but not as thin)

Actually, if you saw a FEDEX crew (they wear leather too) They may very well be close to 65 FEDEX had many ROPES (Real Old Pilot Engineers)

Cheers
Wino

[jackharr]

The simple test (for male pilots) is: "do they need Viagra?" If they do, then they should retire. If not, then they should be allowed to continue until they do eventually need those little blue pills.

Should be easy enough to conduct the appropriate test at the six-monthly medical. Most doctors seem to employ young female receptionists.......

Jack (wondering how long this post will survive before moderated)

and yes ... I did have to retire

[beamer]

Wino

Sorry, when I wrote 'American' I did so in respect of nationality not Company !

Jackarr - re Viagra, I was staggered recently when in the States to see so many advertisements on the TV for cures for ED etc. Even more amusing the long list of side-effects with these 'treatments' - you would have to pretty desperate to go down that road.............

[Huck]

If you saw the average American married woman naked you'd understand....

That's right, I said it!

[slip and turn]

That was becoming true in UK too Huck, but thankfully we expanded the EU just in time to improve the gene pool before the Viagra sends us blind I reckon