ATR42 missing in Venezuela

[safetypee]

IIRC the ATR is one of the few aircraft where GPWS / EGPWS (TAWS) can be selected ‘OFF’ with a flight deck switch.
I recall an ATR CFIT accident where the EGPWS was OFF – a former Yugoslav country?

[MAJIC9]

Yeah, remember that one... that was SiFly's ATR-42 that crashed in Kosovo/Serbia about 10 years ago..

[ZFT]

Safetypee

You recall correctly. 3 posn selection Norm Flap (mode 4) inhibit and Off. Sw is guarded in Norm position.

[punkalouver]

Still waiting for a crash report on an MD-80 about 4 years ago with a bunch of French tourists.

[Romeo India Xray]

Still waiting for a crash report on an MD-80 about 4 years ago with a bunch of French tourists.

Just to make things clear, that wasn't Santa Barbara Airlines was it?

I have recently been doing quite a bit of work with Santa Barbara and I had not heard of that. Also, since the ATR accident, it would seem they have really picked their game plan up. SMS and TEM taken seriously now - at least that is the impression I got after spending a morning with their safety manager, and a couple of weeks with their crews. Obviosuly I don't have a "before" for comparison, but it doesn't seem as bad as many would have you believe in the light of the ATR.

RIX

[PT6-6]

yes it was Santa Barbara Airlines.... the cvr audio is available in youtube..

[postman23]

ATR tape available as well if youtube is correct.

[Mike-Bracknell]

yes it was Santa Barbara Airlines.... the cvr audio is available in youtube.

No, the OP was asking whether the MD-80 was Santa Barbara Airlines - it wasn't, it was West Caribbean Airlines.

[Romeo India Xray]

No, the OP was asking whether the MD-80 was Santa Barbara Airlines - it wasn't, it was West Caribbean Airlines.

Mike, thanks for clearing that up for me. I knew it wasn't Santa Barbara with the MD-80, but I wanted to check for the details the next time I am in CCS. You beat me to it.

I had found the ATR CVR on Youtube, but of course nothing re BBR MD-80.

RIX

[Mike-Bracknell]

You're welcome.

Incidentally: West Caribbean Airways - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[PT6-6]

ooppsss my mistake, i thought he was talking about the ATR crash... there is also ( on youtube ) a "dramatization" of the West Carribean crash...

[Furia]

The youtube CVR can be heard here



The audio is in Spanish and it is not good quality but worth listening.

On this video you can read the voice transcription, since the audio was hard to understand.



Rest in peace.