SAA B737-700 hits catering truck (video)
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Nooluv, I dont think so.. it looks like the wing of the aircraft was over the red line, truck looks like it was parked in its bay (within the white lines), sure was like a lucky escape and no one got hurt (I assume with no ambulances)
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South African 737-700 versus ground vehicles
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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=087_1198706113
Panic gripped on lookers and passengers at the Lusaka International airport when a South African airways passenger plane hit into a stationary truck upon arrival from Johannesburg.
A ZANIS crew that rushed to scene around 15:00 hours found airport officials and fire service personnel and South African Airways officials inspecting the Boeing 737-700 registration number ZS-SJD.
Uncompromising Airport and Zambia Police Officers could not however allow the crew access to the accident site as management had instructed them not to allow the press.
According to an eye witness who refused to be identified, the plane was about to park at the apron before passengers could disembark when its left wing that was dented, hit into the stationary utility truck registration number KYZ 207.
Efforts to get a comment from South African Airways officials also proved futile as they categorically refused to comment on the matter.
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Panic gripped on lookers and passengers at the Lusaka International airport when a South African airways passenger plane hit into a stationary truck upon arrival from Johannesburg.
A ZANIS crew that rushed to scene around 15:00 hours found airport officials and fire service personnel and South African Airways officials inspecting the Boeing 737-700 registration number ZS-SJD.
Uncompromising Airport and Zambia Police Officers could not however allow the crew access to the accident site as management had instructed them not to allow the press.
According to an eye witness who refused to be identified, the plane was about to park at the apron before passengers could disembark when its left wing that was dented, hit into the stationary utility truck registration number KYZ 207.
Efforts to get a comment from South African Airways officials also proved futile as they categorically refused to comment on the matter.
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Why the Hell didn't they stop immediately? Surely to God it's better safe than sorry to have an ops vehicle do an immediate look for a fuel leak with the fire service on it's way?
Also what is the security issue about POB? Is that a state secret now too big brother?
Also what is the security issue about POB? Is that a state secret now too big brother?
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The aircraft is clearly too far over. You may have noticed the red line while the aircraft was taxiing in. (The red line is the aircraft stand boundary) The aircraft should not be beyond the red line.
Was the aircraft being marshalled in?
Was the aircraft being marshalled in?
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This thread has been running in African Aviation for two weeks and local reports are there. Also, I think that you will find it is a 737-800.
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=306064
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=306064
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Big white line there for a reason.........
Why was the wing over the road anyway?
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This is going to be a great thread!
Pilots say it was 3 feet over the line. "ground personel fault!!!)
Ground crew say it was not more than a foot.. (pilot error!!!)
(this gathered from many forums.)
I blame the guy who painted the lines. He should have measured everything then added ten feet, then a bit more and then five feet for the wife and kids!
""the board of enquiry finds that the purchase of 5 gallons of black paint, to cover up the existing markings, and 5 gallons of paint in assorted colors and a six inch brush will prevent another occurence of this tragic incident""
Ground crew say it was not more than a foot.. (pilot error!!!)
(this gathered from many forums.)
I blame the guy who painted the lines. He should have measured everything then added ten feet, then a bit more and then five feet for the wife and kids!
""the board of enquiry finds that the purchase of 5 gallons of black paint, to cover up the existing markings, and 5 gallons of paint in assorted colors and a six inch brush will prevent another occurence of this tragic incident""
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Just to indulge in some media bashing, I think it's a bit over the top to start the report with the line "Panic gripped onlookers and passengers" when the sound track of the video on that site contains such "panic" as "Whoa...did you see that? (nervous giggle) Yeah, he knocked over a container", while he was so upset that he kept shooting.
A question from a piece of SLF: since some of this seems to hinge on whether the truck in question was inside or outside the white line, at a "proper" airport (ignore Africa) is there a formal standard for how much clearance there should be between the parking space and the nearest point the largest aircraft using the stand would stretch to? When new models are introduced, how much coordination is there with airport operators about stand layout. (I'm not thinking of dramatic changes like the A380 but, rather, aircraft with slight--but obviously important--dimensional differences.)
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A question from a piece of SLF: since some of this seems to hinge on whether the truck in question was inside or outside the white line, at a "proper" airport (ignore Africa) is there a formal standard for how much clearance there should be between the parking space and the nearest point the largest aircraft using the stand would stretch to? When new models are introduced, how much coordination is there with airport operators about stand layout. (I'm not thinking of dramatic changes like the A380 but, rather, aircraft with slight--but obviously important--dimensional differences.)
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Bobbsy, just to be even-handed and show we're not knocking just Africa, (although few who fly into Africa would disagree that it can sometimes present rather unique challenges), I hope this post will elicit a few responses from pilots who operate regularly into Kennedy at New York - quite possibly the biggest and busiest 'Third World' airfield in current operation.
Wing tip clearances (and not just at JFK) are, at the best of times, minimal, as airport authorities attempt to squeeze the proverbial quart out of a pint pot and allow as many aircraft to use the limited apace available.
Infrastructure just about everywhere is barely able to cope with the levels of traffic now using most airports. JFK is perhaps a little worse than most, but it's by no means alone. It's like most airfields everywhere - no one wants to spend any more money than they really have to, and perhaps just as importantly, offend the always noisy tree-hugging fraternity by expanding facilities at airfields to cope with increasing numbers - and size - of aircraft. In many cases, there just isn't the space anymore to expand into.
Heathrow and the protests over the long awaited Terminal Five is a case in point.
Wing tip clearances (and not just at JFK) are, at the best of times, minimal, as airport authorities attempt to squeeze the proverbial quart out of a pint pot and allow as many aircraft to use the limited apace available.
Infrastructure just about everywhere is barely able to cope with the levels of traffic now using most airports. JFK is perhaps a little worse than most, but it's by no means alone. It's like most airfields everywhere - no one wants to spend any more money than they really have to, and perhaps just as importantly, offend the always noisy tree-hugging fraternity by expanding facilities at airfields to cope with increasing numbers - and size - of aircraft. In many cases, there just isn't the space anymore to expand into.
Heathrow and the protests over the long awaited Terminal Five is a case in point.
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Wiley,
QF 744 whacking a winglet into a blast fence when coming onto stand at KJFK is a case in your point.
And as I said in the other thread on this topic (in JB), the Liveleak 'news item' shows that cruddy aviation reporting isn't just confined to UK red-tops!
Mods - may want to consider a thread-merge? Sounds like there are at least three running at the moment.
QF 744 whacking a winglet into a blast fence when coming onto stand at KJFK is a case in your point.
And as I said in the other thread on this topic (in JB), the Liveleak 'news item' shows that cruddy aviation reporting isn't just confined to UK red-tops!
Mods - may want to consider a thread-merge? Sounds like there are at least three running at the moment.
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Wing tip clearances (and not just at JFK) are, at the best of times, minimal, as airport authorities attempt to squeeze the proverbial quart out of a pint pot and allow as many aircraft to use the limited apace available.
Looking at the Video, the aircraft is either on the taxiway in which case he's to far over or the taxiway is not coded for the aircraft. Or, he is coming onto a stand that is too small for the aircraft type. The catering truck was well away from the demarcation line. So any thought that the foot by which the vehicle breached the parking bay line caused the accident is a touch off track.
My initial thought is that its the fault of whoever provides the marshalling, if he was under marshalling guidance. If either the wrong taxiway width or stand width is correct then the marshaller should have had a wing tip man in place......I know, I know, 'Its Africa'....
Obviously this is my view from watching the video. Angles can be deceptive and I will be interested in the official accident report.
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Oh reilly...
Quote from call ""...The catering truck was well away from the "demarcation" line. So any thought that the foot by which the vehicle breached the parking bay line caused the accident is a touch off track.....
Whatever, but just in case it ever happens to you, it might be good point in mitigation....
Whatever, but just in case it ever happens to you, it might be good point in mitigation....
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gladrag Sorry! Don't understand your comment. The plane should not have been anywhere near the truck. The wing-tip should never have gone over the red line never mind the parking bay line. Should there be extraordinary circumstances meaning it was unavoidable then a wing man should have been provided.
The catering truck under any circumstances was not the cause of the accident.
What do you think the red demarcation lines are for? They denote the edge of the taxiway/stand.
There was certainly no need for your childish 'Whatever' comment.
The catering truck under any circumstances was not the cause of the accident.
What do you think the red demarcation lines are for? They denote the edge of the taxiway/stand.
There was certainly no need for your childish 'Whatever' comment.