Thai authorities introduce new rules for foreign pilots
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It isn't just the aviation authorities. During the foot and mouth crisis, passengers arriving from europe had to paddle across disinfectant soaked pads -even though the disease is endemic in Thailand. Different industry, same syndrome.
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Whilst I don’t disagree with your comments re the Thai Authorities, the problems are not across Thai Aviation, only some of the later entrants. TG do not have any non Thai flight crews and IMHO they operate in a very professional manner.
Whilst I don’t disagree with your comments re the Thai Authorities, the problems are not across Thai Aviation, only some of the later entrants. TG do not have any non Thai flight crews and IMHO they operate in a very professional manner.
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30 Years too late???
Without knowing the facts of the accident, we may never know the true cause, but the article suggests that the CVR revealed something disturbing about a mixed crew. Will we ever know? If so, is this the Thai authorities 'saving face,' political posturing, or merely a knee-jerk reaction to an airline that does not even offer CRM to their foreign hired pilots? I really wonder if the other Thai air carriers offer CRM in their training programs.
After many go 'rounds with foreign carriers and working in many training departments, I found the 'pre-Portland' UAL crash mentality is alive and well overseas, particularly in Asia and S AMER [for those who do not remember, this gave birth to modern day CRM]. I froze the SIM on a S AMER DC10 Captain trainee in the flare 50 feet off the runway! I did not critique him at all...he knew what was wrong...I critiqued the FO and FE for not saying one word during the entire ordeal.
During the break, these two approached me and said they wanted to say something, but they could not...for he is the CAPTAIN! I told them they could either die for their Captain, or lose face and live to see another day. Another problem is the 'deer-in-the-headlights' fixation when things become difficult. As a previous post stated, the Captain is usually a single pilot without any assistance from the 'self-loading baggage' in the right seat. This is a problem that training cannot change due to cultural history, and one that needs to seriously be addressed.
Even highly recognized airline training programs (JAL) separate foreigners from nationals during CRM courses, even though they may share the same cockpits. Maybe the Thai authorities are the first in Asia to wake up and smell the ..."tea" ????
After many go 'rounds with foreign carriers and working in many training departments, I found the 'pre-Portland' UAL crash mentality is alive and well overseas, particularly in Asia and S AMER [for those who do not remember, this gave birth to modern day CRM]. I froze the SIM on a S AMER DC10 Captain trainee in the flare 50 feet off the runway! I did not critique him at all...he knew what was wrong...I critiqued the FO and FE for not saying one word during the entire ordeal.
During the break, these two approached me and said they wanted to say something, but they could not...for he is the CAPTAIN! I told them they could either die for their Captain, or lose face and live to see another day. Another problem is the 'deer-in-the-headlights' fixation when things become difficult. As a previous post stated, the Captain is usually a single pilot without any assistance from the 'self-loading baggage' in the right seat. This is a problem that training cannot change due to cultural history, and one that needs to seriously be addressed.
Even highly recognized airline training programs (JAL) separate foreigners from nationals during CRM courses, even though they may share the same cockpits. Maybe the Thai authorities are the first in Asia to wake up and smell the ..."tea" ????
